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OCTOBER 20, 2010

Limited War

In this election, you can glimpse the brutish future of American politics. This new age of brutishness may or may not include the Tea Party. But, even if the Tea Party dissipates, the anger undergirding it will not. The Tea Party has expertly articulated a widespread grievance: that the government is redistributing money from hardworking Americans to the idle and undeserving. Of course, this is hardly a new charge. But it takes place in a new context—an age of growing austerity, where this complaint will acquire an ever-sharper edge and battles over the scarce resources of the state will erupt in spectacular skirmishes.

Politics has, in some sense, always been a resource war—and in American politics it has usually taken the form of one political party promoting a social safety net and the other party decrying how hard-earned tax dollars unjustly finance those benefits. But, while that debate was intense, it was in some sense resolvable. For decades, our political system has been able to fund an array of social programs while keeping taxes relatively low. The American economy grew at a sufficient pace that it could rather effortlessly bankroll a state that satisfied divergent interests.

But that broad, unintentional compromise is no longer sustainable. We’re entering a period of austerity, far different from anything we’ve ever seen before. The predictions, especially the ones formulated by sober, nonpartisan analysts, are eye-popping. Earlier this year, a Congressional Budget Office report estimated that the debt as a percentage of GDP would approximately triple by 2035. Put another way, debt will come to exceed 185 percent of GDP. That’s far worse than Greece’s current perilous condition, a crisis that has been portrayed as the reductio ad absurdum of fiscal indiscipline.

Like the David Cameron government in Britain, or any number of other states across Europe, we’ll soon be forced to reckon with the fact that our economic viability depends on some combination of shrinking the state and raising revenue. If we were careful planners—and, of course, we’re not—we would begin by saving about 5 percent of GDP each year. Next year, for example, we’d have to make tax increases and spending cuts add up to about $700 billion. Over time, the total costs would prove immense: raising everyone’s tax bill by at least 25 percent (and probably a lot more than that) or eliminating about 20 percent of the federal budget (the approximate current size of Social Security, for example).

Even if you assume that a crisis is distant—or assume that we’ll avert it by letting the Bush tax cuts expire and further containing health care costs—the anxieties about deficits are already acute. Both parties are posturing to assume the mantle of fiscal conservatism, a trend that the success of the Tea Party will only exacerbate. And by December, Obama’s deficit commission will release its findings, further propelling this debate to the fore.

With resources shrinking, the competition for them will inflame. Each party will find itself in a death struggle to protect the resources that flow to its base—and, since the game will be zero-sum, each will attempt to expropriate the resources that flow to the other side. This resource war will scramble our politics. Each party will be forced to dramatically change its calculus and remake its agenda. And if you thought our politics had grown nasty, you haven’t even begun to consider the ugliness of the politics of scarcity.

 

At first glance, the Democrats have the most to lose in this new struggle. They have spent decades trying to recover their image from the excesses of the McGovern era, repositioning themselves as something more than an aggregation of aggrieved—and needy—interest groups. Even Barack Obama, the most liberal president in decades, packaged himself as post-partisan candidate, rather than as a warrior on behalf of unions or minority groups. “There’s nothing liberal about wanting to reduce money in politics,” he said during the campaign. “There’s nothing liberal about wanting to make sure [our soldiers] are treated properly when they come home.” This pitch worked well. The public basically considered him a man of the center—a perception that rested on many years of Democrats shaking off the caricature (and reality) of paleo-liberalism.

But, for all the gains the party has made, the age of scarcity risks reversing them. It’s precisely the Democratic Party’s historic base—minorities, labor, the poor—that will take the greatest hit in coming years. You can already begin to see signs of this. Even when Congress approved an economic stimulus bill in August, it coupled spending on health care and teachers’ salaries with deep cuts in food stamps. It reduced benefits for a family of three by $47 per month, according to one estimate.

Or take state government, which is really the vanguard of the crisis. The austerity hammer has fallen hard on Democratic constituencies. According the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, at least 31 states have slashed programs that provide low-income children and families access to either health care or health insurance. Peruse almost any state budget and you’ll find further shredding of the safety net. Idaho’s Department of Health and Welfare has closed nine of its 45 field offices; Georgia has cut funding for low-income family support programs by 7 percent. And that’s all merely a prelude to a looming apocalypse. In their next budgets, 24 states will face a shortfall of at least 10 percent—and it’s not hard to imagine where they will trim to cover that gap.

One of the most obvious targets of cuts will be public-sector workers—the very unions that provide the Democrats with their most significant muscle. Indeed, it’s hard to overstate the money and manpower that the public-employee unions provide to the Democrats at election time. Just this election cycle, they have donated $12,561,042 to the Democrats. But these public-sector workers—so easily lampooned as bureaucrats—also happen to be unpopular. Even blue states, like New York and New Jersey, which are largely sympathetic to labor unions, have turned against the public employees in this fiscal crunch, according to the recent findings of pollsters.

So as governments consider firing more of these workers, it places Democrats in an uncomfortable defensive position. Do they stand by this swath of their unpopular base? This drama has already transpired in places like California, which recently saved $1.5 billion by furloughing state employees and scaling back their benefits. The union hardly acceded to these proposals. As the state mulled the massive cuts, one union leader notoriously told Democratic legislators, “We helped to get you into office, and we got a good memory; and, come November, if you don’t back our program, we’ll help to get you out of office.” She may have needed to be that blunt. In California, too, the electorate has no love for public workers. A majority, according to a recent Rasmussen poll of likely voters, view them as a “significant” strain on the state budget—an opinion that Republicans like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Meg Whitman have aggressively channeled.

The Democratic base is already applying massive pressure on its politicians to resist cuts. The labor-funded Campaign for America’s Future recruited 50 progressive leaders who signed a statement that urged: “We should be strengthening, not slashing, vital programs like Medicaid, Unemployment Compensation, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (food stamps) ... and other programs and services crucial to struggling lower-income and middle-income people in every corner of our country.” Such anxieties over austerity explain why liberals have savaged Obama for creating a deficit commission in the first place. Arianna Huffington has fumed, “Maybe progressives and the middle class need to sort of face up to the fact that the president is not that much into them, that he would rather hang out with Larry Summers, or flirt with Olympia Snowe. ... Remember, he set up a deficit commission before he set up a jobs commission.”

Unfortunately, defending against these cuts exposes all sorts of political vulnerabilities. This year’s elections offer a preview of how Republicans intend to use the vulnerability of these programs to attack Democrats. That is, there’s some indication that they will return to the racially tinged backlash politics of the ’70s and ’80s. Newt Gingrich, who has re-emerged as a particularly active rhetorician for the Tea Party, has supplied a large number of phrases redolent of that era. He has described the Democrats as the “party of food stamps.” That’s a slightly softer version of the line trumpeted by Glenn Beck that explicitly decries Obama for acting out a “deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture.”

It’s a miserable predicament for a party. These social programs are the very reason for its existence. Yet, the party’s political survival has depended on its speaking in a low voice about them. In an age of austerity, that is no longer possible. Republicans will try to force Democrats to defend these programs—with all the attendant baggage. And if they don’t take up the cause fervently enough, their base will force their hand, espousing the unattractive identity politics that Democrats thought they had escaped.

Austerity will produce unlikely political strategies on the other side of the aisle, too. Take the Tea Party’s stance on entitlements. Ostensibly, the Tea Party has stoked an anti-government moment—following in the footsteps of conservatives who have spent generations trashing the New Deal. That’s what made it so strange to hear Republican candidates like Mississippi’s Alan Nunnelee, a favorite to rip that state’s first congressional district from a Democratic incumbent, release a pledge promising to never privatize Social Security. Countless other Republicans have thrashed their Democratic opponents for supporting a $500 billion cut in Medicare. Karl Rove’s campaign group has accused Pennsylvania Congressman Joe Sestak of voting to “gut” the program. Another conservative front group, 60 Plus, has run ads against Democrats around the country alleging that their votes to cut Medicare “will hurt the quality of our care.”

These ads do not grow from any conservative epiphany about the philosophical virtues of government benefits. They stem from a clever bet about how scarcity will reshape generational politics. For many years, the anxieties of seniors redounded to the benefit of Democrats. When Democrats issued jeremiads about the perils of Social Security privatization, older voters responded with fear. Democrats have maintained a double-digit advantage on Social Security for well over a decade. An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll in October 2006 found that the public invested greater trust in Democrats on Social Security by 28 points. Remarkably, that gap now stands at four points, a statistical tie.

How did the Republicans eliminate this time-tested disadvantage? They have replaced the Democrats as the great students of entitlement anxiety. Republicans understand that one axis of the resource war will be generational. All of their vows to defend Medicare are coupled with attacks on Obama’s health care reform. They implicitly portray Democrats as waging an age war—creating a massive new government program that transfers dollars to the young at the expense of the elderly. Republicans have cleverly stoked the fear that Obama is rewarding all his exuberant, youthful, idealistic supporters by redistributing resources that are badly needed by the old.

But the voters over 65 that Republicans are pursuing are largely a subset of their most important voting bloc: whites. Republicans have staked the entirety of their electoral future on them. And just as they have exploited seniors’ anxiety about scarcity, they have done the same with the white population as a whole. In fact, whites may be the most anxious group this political season. (Only 59 percent of whites believe “Americans will always continue to be prosperous and make economic progress”—while 81 percent of blacks and 75 percent of Hispanics continue to profess faith in the future.) This anxiety is the reason that Republicans have spent so much time talking about the menace of immigration—even though many of them once viewed Hispanic voters as a potential pillar of their future coalition.

The rise of illegal immigration as an issue this cycle doesn’t correspond to material facts. The number of aliens pouring across the border is not increasing. On the contrary, the recession and improved enforcement have drastically reduced it. What is increasing is anxiety about resource competition. And that’s exactly why immigrants cause so much agitation: They are perceived by many voters as one giant, undeserving resource suck. In June, Gallup asked, “Which comes closer to your point of view, illegal immigrants in the long run become productive citizens and pay their fair share of taxes, or illegal immigrants cost taxpayers too much by using government services like public education and medical services?” Among all voters, 62 percent perceived immigrants as a resource drain. Among Republicans, the number concurring with that dim assessment rose to 78 percent. You’ll often hear Republican immigration proposals—rewriting the Fourteenth Amendment’s guarantee of citizenship, for instance—dismissed as political suicide. I would argue that it shows the GOP’s astute understanding of the new zeitgeist.

It goes without saying that Republicans will also be waging a war on behalf of the affluent and corporations. They have been stunningly successful at walking away from recent budget fights in those states granting even further tax cuts to business interests. In California, for instance, they managed to secure a $30 million tax break for Humboldt Redwood Company, owned by one of the state’s wealthiest, not to mention most influential, families. And, even as the state increased tuition at public universities by 32 percent—and as state parks are actually running out of toilet paper—Republicans have skillfully managed to avoid a corporate tax hike. In fact, they protected a $1.4 billion corporate tax cut by agreeing to merely postpone it for two years.

All of which is to say that the age of scarcity poses it own risks to Republicans. They are relying on a group in long-term demographic decline (whites) and pursuing policies on behalf of a group that hardly seems deserving of limited resources (the affluent)—and are attempting to woo another group (the elderly) with demagoguery that betrays their core principles about limited government.

But, for all the risks that resource competition poses to the political parties, the risks are much greater to our political system. There’s no doubt which groups will prevail—and which will fall—in these wars. We can already see that the politics of scarcity will inflict the greatest wounds on the poor. The political vulnerability of programs serving impoverished minority constituencies is self-evident. The suffering caused by these cuts is a tragic consequence of this new dynamic. We will not have conceived cuts in a spirit of the common good, or with any eye to creating sound policy, but out of a sense of gamesmanship and the mean-spiritedness that is integral to intense competition over a shrinking pie.

Social schisms in this country have always been real. Yet, we’ve embedded an ideal of solidarity into our state, a sense of moral obligation. Not a European ideal of a safety net, but a very American ideal. There’s been a sense of optimism in our politics and our social policy because we’ve never perceived social success in this country as zero-sum. We’re now witnessing the erosion of that belief—an array of anxieties and a creeping distrust that will sap the optimism from our system, perhaps the most crucial quality in making us an exceptional nation.

Thomas B. Edsall holds the Joseph Pulitzer II and Edith Pulitzer Moore Chair at the Columbia Graduate School of Journalism. This article ran in the November 11, 2010 issue of the magazine.

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What a depressing article.

- JEFF FREY

October 25, 2010 at 12:20am

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It's dreadfully depressing. I can't say, looking at what's happened in Britain, that it's inaccurate. However - pointing out the pitfalls of simply leaving people to fall by the wayside - that's how the US will fall into ruin. The wealthy cannot exist in a country where people go hungry. There is no civility, no security without economic stability for ALL Americans. Also, simply chopping jobs and benefits is stupid. Making more unemployed people does absolutely nothing to buoy the markets. It does nothing to increase consumer confidence - in fact, fear of losing jobs, losing home value - losing the house - is keeping people from spending anything at all and that's contributing to this dark and vicious circle. SOMEBODY has to speak clearly to this issue. Paul Krugman is trying but I'm praying that President Obama will speak to these matters. For one thing the US cannot remain a real country if people are living in the streets, dying young, failing to thrive. It's unChristian.

- Sophia

October 25, 2010 at 12:59am

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They may have succeeded in "shrinking government to the size where you can drown it in a bathtub."

- Nusholtz

October 25, 2010 at 7:32am

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"[E]xcesses of the McGovern era". Would that be while he served as a decorated bomber pilot in Europe during WWII; while he served as director of the Food for Peace program during the JFK administration; when he lead the opposition to the Viet Nam War during the Johnson and Nixon administration but voted in favor of military appropriations so as not to leave our combat troops vulnerable; when he was instrumental in creating the federal food stamp program; during his support for the equal rights amendment; or when he supported a woman's right to choose. Or would that be the caricature created by Republicans in their efforts to defeat all things progressive. But I do agree with Edsall that the future of a progressive agenda will depend on support from the (white) middle class, beginning with a more equitable tax policy that doesn't impose the highest marginal federal tax rate on the middle class. Or would that be considered one of the "excesses of the McGovern era" and avoided.

- rayward

October 25, 2010 at 7:43am

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As an expat, I have feared this coming conflict for my country since 2005. The tenor of this article, in my biased opinion, is lusting for that decline. I have always put my money on the real "silent majority" the ones who finally, in crisis, stood up for a just America. Maybe, I'm out of touch. (I do have a comfortable EU safety net--stroke treatment free of charge.) The "horny" approach of the author to the coming next week in your local cinema austerity catastrophy is vile. Yes, there are going to be hard times. Okay, he sees Americans as stupid, subject to racial and economic predjudices. Yes, that is true. I still see (browsing the net and the "opposition") feeling in my gut and know is still the American spirit, that the just will win over the unjust--without God or Oprah, we will do this. Now, ain't I hanging by a thread!

- kras

October 25, 2010 at 10:11am

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Rayward, I would like to add McGovern's line about his wanting to run for President after he lost terribly: "I wanted to run for U.S. President in the worst way, and I did!"

- Nusholtz

October 25, 2010 at 10:14am

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Things often have to get worse before they can get better. An analogy would be that alcoholics and drug addicts often have to hit bottom before they are truly ready to change. Because of the severe economic conditions, the country has all but forgotten the depredations of the Bush administration. But Republican majorities in one or both Houses of Congress could well serve as a reminder and a spur for action to deal with items like the shredding of the safety net, the decay of our infrastructure, and the ever widening gap of income and wealth. As Sartre put it: "Freedom lies on the far side of despair."

- JackR

October 25, 2010 at 10:17am

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Edsall should know, as well as anyone, that the source of the United States' long-term deficit is about 85% Medicare and 10% Social Security. No amount of anger at public employee unions or the poor and the consequent purging of resources in their direction would make a meaningful difference in this deficit -- and, if you consider the military, Social Security and Medicare sacrosanct and require them to be sufficiently staffed and funded to function no worse than they do now, you won't meaningfully reduce the numbers or compensation of Federal employees either. So, in addition to the politics of racial and social resentment, you have a Republican politics of incoherence as the party clings to their aging and white base to defeat any meaningful cuts to long-term deficits while those same deficits harm the overall economy and lead to a rise in interest rates -- which, ironically, benefits older people on fixed incomes at the expense of everyone else! On the other hand, I could see in a decade or so an emerging Democratic anti-elderly politics that demands greater contributions from America's most affluent demographic to fund the needs of a working and middle class that is majority non-white and increasingly feels cheated of the American dream by the people whose bedpans they are cleaning and whose Social Security checks they are processing. Pulling the plug on Grandma, anyone?

- wildboy

October 25, 2010 at 10:28am

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This is why I keep my Canadian citizenship....

- SMacEachern2

October 25, 2010 at 11:14am

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wildboy. You're embarassingly dense. As budget deficit items, in addition to Medicare (a real problem without the health care we didn't get and you probably oppose) and social security (not really a problem), you have the costs of foreign wars, military spending, and an insuffiently-progressive tax system (higher taxes than presently approved on the wealthiest--including me-- would bring in much more revenue than they would inhibit growth of the economy). Other items -- like unproductive agricultural subsidies-- currently add more to the deficit than does social security, which at present doesn't add to the deficit. The US budgetary problem is actually not that hard to solve--- if Keynesian economic theory is followed. Obama and the Dems have only partially done so. The Repubs actively reject Keynesian economics and support Hooverian models. That's the equivalent of insisting on a flat earth model in 1510. Because Genesis and the Pope say so. In fact, BHO and many Dems in power try to combine Keynesian with Hooverian models. In some sense, that even more stupid. Good luck with any of that.

- drofnats1

October 25, 2010 at 11:34am

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Sophia: "The wealthy cannot exist in a country where people go hungry." Why not? You enjoy a PC--a modern extravagance--while those in Africa starve. You seem to justify that without issue. Tell me how you can enjoy so much luxury in this country while others in the world die due to lack of clean water? If you can answer that, then you can understand how a millionaire might want to pay for a subsidized cellphone for someone in this country that has invested thousands in tattoos but can't seem to find enough money for the basics. We need to do a "one for one" promise. A promise in which for every % of savings the government comes up with, we as taxpayers will match with additional taxes. So, in 2012, if the government can reduce the budget by 8%, then we as tax payers will pay an extra 8% in taxes across the board. A few years of that could make a real dent.

- seattleeng

October 25, 2010 at 11:48am

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This article is a good example of how deeply spurious right wing memes have seeped in to the consciousness of the press. Democrats have the most to lose? Nonsense! "Excesses of McGovern?" It's 2010 for Chrissakes. Mr. Edsall, have you ever heard of a gentleman named "Bill Clinton?" You might want to check out the economic policies he implemented for eight years. I think he referred to himself as an "Eisenhower Republican"? Please! THINK Mr. Edsall THINK. Your breezy proclimations of Democratic economic history are nothing more than spoon fed propoganda from the right. Since when have Republicans ever been anything but excessive economically? Let's work with facts next time, not trite nonsense - shall we?

- WandreyCer

October 25, 2010 at 11:51am

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Those who find Edsall's reasoning persuasive (scattered off-base characterizations notwithstanding) might be left wondering whether the article's title is actually somewhat overly optimistic.

- eyecon

October 25, 2010 at 12:00pm

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Gary Shteyngart's "Super Sad True Love Story" is the Edsallian future. Read it!

- agoldhammer@yahoo.com-old

October 25, 2010 at 12:15pm

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Nice one, Drofnats. If you ever bothered reading my posts over the past year, you know that I was a rather enthusiastic supporter of the health reform we got. I wouldn't even mind the health reform we didn't get (I assume you mean single-payer universal health care), but you may have noticed that such a health reform doesn't tend to get anywhere politically in this country. As for the other items you cite, military spending and foreign wars do add a lot to the deficit, but those don't tend to be items that the American voting public which lives outside college towns want to cut substantially. In fact, military spending (independent of actual warfare) is a very, very popular public expenditure that keeps everyone from advanced manufacturers to service-sector employees happy. It may have been relatively simple to cut expenditures for military bases in the early 1990s, when the Cold War had just ended, but it's a lot harder now with the War on Terror even if the US military presence in Iraq and Afghanistan diminishes to a Korea-like commitment 5-7 years from now. And you never know when foreign military crises spring up -- I bet you would not have expected in 1999 for the US to be militarily involved in Afghanistan to the degree that it has in 2010. As for your other culprits like farm subsidies, I am certain that eliminating them means that we will have solved our long-term budget future for approximately 9 months -- until all the costs of colonoscopies for baby-boomers cancel out our savings from not paying farmers not to grow so much damn corn.

- wildboy

October 25, 2010 at 12:47pm

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drofnats, in the 10 years of the iraq war, our government spent some (swag) $30T, of which around $700B was Iraq. Not materially significant. A contributor, yes, but it certainly doesn't change things. Yes, we spend a lot on military. It employs a crap load of people. In fact, it's almost a liberal's wet dream of how things should work. The government dreams a up a vague task to be accomplished, and the pays people to do that task and in return you get a squishy promise that if it wasn't being done, things would be a lot worse. 41% of the military goes to pay salaries. 20% of the military goes to buy stuff from US makers of products. Everything from canned corn to uniforms to bullets. 11% of the military goes to R&D. Paying Boeing, for example, to employ engineers to figure out how to fly higher and further. Hopefully long before others figure it out. 4% of military spending goes to build stuff. Military bases, housing for employees. This pays construction firms employing mostly US workers. So, about 65-75% of military spending is just paying people to work. Eliminating this would have big consequences. Doable of course. But what do you do with those that it employed? Put them to work on some other government effort? You still have that line item in the budget. Eliminate their positions and let private sector pick up the slack? Not sure they would.

- seattleeng

October 25, 2010 at 12:50pm

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Go back to early sixties optimism? How about raising top marginal tax rates to what they were after JFK cut them - to 70%

- NR027810

October 25, 2010 at 12:57pm

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What a bunch of complete baloney. I am heartily sick of pundits and other assorted wastrels who, in the middle of an 80-year crisis caused by well-paid idiots gambling with other people's money, declare that the current truth is the new reality. What still makes America different is a belief in can-do freedom and the competition to innovate. Let's not let a few depressing years shake our core beliefs, no matter what the idiots in charge may say or do.

- enaso1970

October 25, 2010 at 1:20pm

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seattle, have you ever even been out of the US? Down in Mexico I have a friend of a friend from a wealthy family who was kidnapped and had one of his fingers chopped off to get the ransom paid. I live in rural Oaxaca, pretty much everyone here has access to PC's, so stop pretending like they are unobtainable. It was the same in China. And not having a PC is not hell either, up until 10 years ago I didn't. As to myself, I don't even own a car, I ride my bicycle to work and town so pardon me while I get on my high horse and piss on your head. I as sure as hell don't have to justify my life to you. Sophia is absolutely right, once a certain tipping point is crossed, rich people in poor countries find their lives to be in a state of perpetual peril. Or are you sanguine as to the notion of your children having their body parts cut off and paying a nice size ransom? Personally, I find this article alarmist, I find it very likely we are on the cusp of the next technology wave, one that makes most of these predictions seem quaint. What that next breakthrough will be I don't know, but if and when it happens look out.

- blackton

October 25, 2010 at 1:25pm

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article3419840.ece Stiglitz puts the cost of Iraq alone at $3 trillion as a conservative estimate. Afghanistan obviously isn't included in the number. And Herr Seattle, Sophia specifically said "The wealthy cannot exist in a country where people go hungry." If you bothered to read what she said her statement is true (and Blackie gave a graphic example of what happens when there is disparity). Never did she bring up our living standard relative to other countries. You're knocking down strawmen. Wide income disparity creates political instability. You don't have to look far in our own hemisphere to see examples of it

- tnmats

October 25, 2010 at 2:41pm

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Seattle: Did you merely cut and paste that quotation from Sophia's post or did you actually read it? She's talking about people in the same country. It has been historically all too easy to live well while (or even because) people on completely different continents starve -- although as the world gets more globalized this is changing. With that in mind, I assume that by bringing the plight of the world's poor to our attention, you are arguing for, e.g., action to slow climate change. Also: I'm sure that you actually know that there are Americans who can't afford the basics who have not, in fact, spent thousands on tattoos, or whatever immoral-sounding luxury you want to think up next. (I can never remember whether I'm supposed to believe that people are struggling economically because they are lazy and make poor choices or whether I'm supposed to blame it on liberal economic policies that have hurt hard-working Americans.) Your one-for-one tax plan might not be bad, though. Let's see if conservatives go for it.

- frippo

October 25, 2010 at 3:01pm

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The article is alarmist and depressing. But what it brings to light and reinforces in my mind is that the US finds itself in a tenuous point in its history. That point being where the aging population finds a nation that is rapidly changing as the pax-Americana era ends as the US becomes a nation that is as globally influenced as much as it is globally influencing. Couple this with a slow decline in "cultural" influence by aging boomers and you begin to sense a generational grasping of straws. The boomer generation has been and is still acting as if they're the only generation that counts and that the decline and resource scarcity is a result of recent immigrants or younger generational demands for economic equity and social fairness. With the majority of young Americans (under 40) that I've talked to, I've gathered a greater sense of social responsibility and peer interactivity among these people than the older generations. A large majority of thses younger Americans are more globally connected, more socially liberal, value free-time and flexibility over high pay and dead-end jobs, and are used to living in an uncertain world were 401Ks and full-paid benefits are now "myths" told by their parents. The older generations still cling to the notion, with little sense of irony, that while they've dug a hole so big through their own social and economic malfeasance that the only way to fill the hole is with the metaphorical bodies of the poor and future generations, while they themselves represent the greatest "resource suck" in America. It's all about cutting taxes, increased corporate write-offs and plutocratic policies for the super wealthy while the middle class lets itself get squeezed by swallowing the false notion that we can all be millionaires someday by simultaneously giving 'it' all away to the wealthiest. Gen-Xers were labeled as malcontents by the boomers because they weren't happy with the corporate status-quo and realized that the 30-years with one company and a retirement package was dead before we got there. Now we find ourselves having to straddle the fence between the nostalgia-burdened boomers and the neoliberal millennials. Having grown up, lived and worked through 4 recessions (80s, 90s, 00s and now) I've seen the same arguments made by the same people who are making the arguments now. Yet the problems that tax cuts, plush corporate welfare handouts coupled austere social welfare cuts were supposed to solve have yet to be fixed. Boomers have repeated the same process four times now with little show for it. Quite frankly, I'm tired of the aging boomers acting and behaving as if they are the only people that matter in America. I'm insulted when it's implied that because I'm supportive of social equity and fairness that my 60 hour work weeks don't qualify as either deserving of equitable compensation or hard work or that I'm un-American. That somehow a person who spends his time shuffling equity-exchange papers is more productive for society than someone who actually contributes to the building of society. I see more cautious optimism amongst my peers and younger than the naysayers over 50 who generationally lament the end of America. Yet I'm not sure if I can remain optimistic about America's future if the same people who drove this country into the ground over the last 30 years insist on continuing to highjack the rest of America from the upcoming generations just so they can hold on a little longer. Waxing nostalgia is not bringing back the Beatles nor will it restore the boomers to the pedestal they've held for far too long.

- singlspeed

October 25, 2010 at 3:34pm

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seattle: Not much to add to Blackton and frippo, but civil unrest in Somalia has very little impact on me and you. Civil unrest in say, the city of Los Angeles (a very mild taste of what we got after the Rodney King trial) is a very different story. Sustained and persistent civil disobedience that prevents the free and cheap flow of goods around the country (there is a lot of open, indefensible railroad out there) would have a very significant impact. One can still starve or die of thirst inside a gated community. Or get kidnapped when you leave. And this of course assumes you feel the idea of apartheid America is acceptable, when there are rather easy alternatives.

- Nari224

October 25, 2010 at 4:27pm

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Austerity: A Virtue That Could Have Us Paying Twice http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130791197 GUY RAZ, host: Raising the retirement age in France is just one of the ways governments across Europe are trying to deal with growing deficits. In Britain this past week, Prime Minister David Cameron's Conservatives announced the largest government spending cuts since World War II. And it seems that lately, everyone is talking about one word. (Soundbite of video "Breaking Down Austerity") Professor MARK BLYTH (International Political Economy, Brown University): Austerity. It's big in Europe. It's getting big here. RAZ: This is from a video clip posted by Mark Blyth. He's a political economist at Brown University. (Soundbite of video "Breaking Down Austerity") (Soundbite of music) Prof. BLYTH: This common sense of austerity, of reducing public debt all at once through slashing services, involves a question of equity: Who pays and who doesn't? Those who made this mess won't, while those who already paid for it through the bailouts will pay again through austerity. This is why austerity is not common sense. It's a nonsense and a dangerous one at that. RAZ: Over the past few weeks, we've been canvassing the views of different economists on this program, asking for their views on how to tackle our economic problems. And this week, Mark Blyth joins me from Brown University. Mark Blyth, welcome to the program. Prof. BLYTH: Nice to be here. RAZ: Now, as you know, many European governments are cutting spending. The word is austerity, right? This has sort of become kind of like the hot economic term now, and this is what many people seem to want their governments to do, to stop spending, to cut deficits. Would it be a good idea here in the U.S.? Prof. BLYTH: Well, actually, I doubt it for one reason, what we would call a fallacy of composition problem: What's true of the whole is not true of the parts or the sum of the parts. If every household decides not to spend, you have no spending. If every country tries to clean its balance sheet at once, then you end up basically reducing the economy overall. Now, the argument, for example as in the United Kingdom, which is leading the trend in austerity politics, is that we're in debt, and we have to worry about the credibility we have in financial markets. So preempting this, the British government decided to clear its balance sheet, basically, and that is reduce lots and lots of government spending. Now, if every other country is continuing to spend and continuing to grow, you can have growth-friendly consolidation, as it's called. If, on the other hand, everyone does this at once, it's just the same as every household not spending: You end up with a shrinkage of the overall economy for no net gain. RAZ: So why do you think so many governments are doing this if, as you argue, it's a bad idea? Prof. BLYTH: Because it has a wonderful ring of virtue about it: austerity, the pain after the party. We all went out and gave ourselves mortgages we couldn't afford; we're drowning in debt and consumption. So there is this ring of virtue to austerity, and it chides with common sense. RAZ: So what you're saying is that if government engages in austerity measures, the public who paid for the bailouts are going to pay for austerity as well. Prof. BLYTH: Absolutely. And this is why, as a foreigner who lived in the United States for a very long period of time, I actually have a great deal of sympathy with the Tea Party. And it goes like this: They understand that their mortgage didn't get a bailout, whereas some big bank's mortgage derivatives portfolio got a bailout, and they think that's unfair. It also means that that debt is accumulated and they're going to have to pay for this at some point. Well, isn't it then really unfair to double-tax these people by having an asymmetric distribution in terms of who pays for the debt? Because if you cut government services, it's exactly the people who consume Medicare, Medicaid, teachers' salaries. It's these things which will be hurt. RAZ: But many folks in the Tea Party are calling for austerity measures. Prof. BLYTH: I know. And that's, to me, one of the greatest puzzles at the moment. I find it very difficult to understand how that link is drawn. Now, the argument is we need to cut taxes. Well, okay, we need to cut taxes, stimulate the economy. That makes the deficit worse. Okay, so what we need to do is not raise taxes, the third rail of politics. Well, then, how do you expect to consolidate the deficit? There are many contradictions in these arguments, and they're born of a sense of frustration out of what I think is the intuitive understanding people have that something deeply unfair is going on. RAZ: So, as you know, we've had many economists on the program over the past few weeks and months, asking them, how can we tackle these twin problems of high unemployment, slow growth? Some have suggested stimulus. Some have suggested austerity. What do you say? What could the government do now? Prof. BLYTH: The austerity people will argue that we need to consolidate balance sheets and clean things up and reduce the debt. And after that, the private sector will recover. That's a very, very large bet. It is based upon the fact that if you get rid of public spending, private spending will take its place, a crowding out of private spending. If that was the case, interest rates should be much higher than they are. So what the government needs to do is to spend enough to maintain the rate of growth in gross domestic product so that things don't get any worse than they are now, allowing people who are in employment to pay back debt, to increase savings, to consolidate and clean up their balance sheets. Then private spending can continue. RAZ: That's Mark Blyth. He is a professor of international political economy at Brown University. He has an upcoming book. It's called "Austerity: The History of a Dangerous Idea." It'll be released next year. And you can see his video, "Breaking Down Austerity," at our website, npr.org. Mark Blyth, thank you so much. Prof. BLYTH: Thank you very much.

- zardoz67

October 25, 2010 at 5:11pm

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For all those who don't like the message, bear in mind that this messenger has a pretty awful track record with his Big Idea pieces. Two that come to mind off the top of my head are a piece he wrote in late 2007 about how Rudy Giuliani was bound to be the next President because he found a winning, Texas-bred and Texas-funded mixture of economic libertarianism and national security conservatives, and another piece Edsall wrote in 2009 arguing that the Democrats would dominate government for the next million years because they had a winning coalition of public-sector dependents (such as retirees and people on unemployment insurance). The man has been wrong more times than I care to recall, so what's one more time to be seriously wrong?

- wildboy

October 25, 2010 at 6:04pm

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Herr Seattle likes to defend ANY income disparity in America by comparing America to Somalia. This is just nuts. I've spoken to this before - in terms addressing global poverty issues and as mentioned above, trying to avoid further damaging the environment so that people can develop economically without devastating land, animals, water and other ecosystems. Of course, this will not deflect Seattle's defense of gross inequality in the US. But it's worth a try nevertheless. As for blaming the Baby Boomers for everything - oh knock it off. If anything we never really came out from underneath the shadow of the seemingly immortal "Greatest Generation." Many of us are already sick, dead or dying. I've lost several friends under age 65 already. This doesn't excuse Baby Boomers for not having fought harder against Big Oil, big business and the devastation of the environment. The fact is though, only a few of us were able to step outside our parents' box and that often came at an awful price. In exchange for Doing Our Thing we deal with poverty, with being excluded from The System and its rewards. A few have been both lucky and creative. The majority took off their earrings and went to work in McJobs and/or daddy's corporation. An awful lot of us will end up poor in old age thanks to this g*dawful economy, which has devastated home values as well as 401K portfolios and other investments. Those who were expecting cushy state or private pensions may well be SOL in a few years. So yeah - blame us for a lack of imagination, courage and willpower. But we didn't create this mess. We are still fighting Bush I's wars and living with Reagan's disastrous economic policies.

- Sophia

October 25, 2010 at 9:13pm

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frippo: "She's talking about people in the same country." Yes I read what she said. Are you drawing arbitrary lines such that we should make sure the poor in this country have all the creature comforts that only the wealthy had 20 years ago? And THEN, we will move on to address people that cannot get clean water? is that your argument? tnmat: Spare me the nonsense (true cost of war) coming from someone with an ax to grind. It's like the clowns that love to talk about the "true cost" of oil. Rubbish. "Wide income disparity creates political instability" Yes, and the US is nowhere near that point yet internally. Externally? Hell yes. That is why I ask how she can sit in a warm house typing on a computer while others in the world starve. Blackton: "seattle, have you ever even been out of the US?" Sigh. We go through this every time. Yes, I'm on my second passport and log over 100K miles year. Don't worry about my world view. I suspect I've seen the coins from more sides than you have.

- seattleeng

October 26, 2010 at 12:45pm

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Sophia writes: "Of course, this will not deflect Seattle's defense of gross inequality in the US. But it's worth a try nevertheless." Inequality in the US? The bottom 10% in the US have as much as the bottom 10% in Canada, Japan, France and Ireland. So we dont' treat our poor any different. See first link below. What is different is that we have so many more wealthy people. And of course we should. Everyone wants to come here to start a company. We draw the brightest from around the world. You are surprised that they build something worthwhile and make money doing it? But we have the most progressive tax system in the world according to the OECD. The top 10% in the US earn 33% of the total income. Ireland is 31%. The UK is 32%. Italy is 35%. France is 25%. Germany is 29% Canada is 29%. But in spite of these other nations letting their top 10% earn about the same as the US, the US hammers our top 10% unlike any other country when it comes to taxes. Look at the UK. Their top 10% earns 32% of all income, while the US is 33.5%. But our top 10% pay 45% of all the taxes. The top 10% in the UK pay 39%. Quite a bit less. Canada? Their top 10% pay 36% of the tax bill. Germany? Their top 10% pay 31% of the tax bill. We are virtually indistinguishable from these other countries in regards to how we treat our poor and how we treat our rich. Given that, and your inability to understand why clean drinking water might be more important than a computer, I can only assume your complaining is, well, envy. http://www.stateofworkingamerica.org/tabfig/2008/08/15.jpg http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23856.html Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links. Don't eat the links.

- seattleeng

October 26, 2010 at 12:59pm

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Mr. Edsall confirms the opening stages of a politics of resentment that will only increase in future. Those who would like a guidebook to the Age of Austerity should read James Howard Kunstler's "The Long Emergency". Published in 2005, the book predicted the 2008 financial and mortgage collapse in detail, viewing it as the opening of a long period of the contraction which the depletion of natural resources makes inevitable. Kunstler's weekly blog at kunstler.com continues to explore many details of the process, including the developing politics of resentment. He can also be corruscatingly funny, if you like gallows humour.

- jgallant

October 26, 2010 at 1:47pm

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We have had periods of major income disparity in the U.S. before and we have had running gun battles in place like West Virginia and Kentucky between private industrial armies and strikers and their families. Look at some photos of that region before 1970 even, let alone earlier. We also had, however, a long period of stability and prosperity from the New Deal until Reagan as unionization succeeded and as corporate barons like Ford realized that one solution to industrial strife and tension is to pay your workers enough for them to buy the products you make and get them committed to the company. You increase the middle class bench depth, not thin it out. The bigger problem is not so much that the economic policy choices have been cutting the middle class margin razor thin over the last 30 years, but that the old middle class politics has failed. Neither the Dems nor the GOP are genuine advocates/representative for the middle class any more and the complex of education and media that supported that culture is almost gone. And to complicate things further, the old white middle class has problems with the fact the the new middle class is a lot less white than it used to be.

- ironyroad

October 26, 2010 at 6:30pm

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This is the Second Great Depression we have been talking about for so long. It is unlikely that human civilization will survive this century. We seem to think that history is a trend, mostly "upward." We went to the moon; we will go to Mars. We mostly eradicated polio and smallpox; we are on the way to curing cancer. We invented computers and proclaimed Moore's law; we will devise artificial intelligence and create new forms of biological and electronic life that will serve us. Until they turn into and/or serve Terminator monsters like Hitler and Stalin and Mao. We created nuclear energy and only used it in war twice; nuclear power plants provide energy, though expensively and in a troublesome way. We will modify our genes and create monsters and new diseases beyond plague and AIDS. We invented advertising and modern marketing and will destroy privacy and freedom. We may "only" sink to Mad Max savagery; if we're lucky. Happy Halloween. We have met the monsters. They are us.

- skahn

October 29, 2010 at 8:59pm

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seattleeng: "Spare me the nonsense (true cost of war) coming from someone with an ax to grind. It's like the clowns that love to talk about the 'true cost' of oil. Rubbish." Note the absolute absence of anything constituting a refutation based on facts. People with axes to grind can be just as right as those who don't. Attacking the source doesn't amount to anything without a true analysis. Just because someone who is frequently wrong says 2+2 = 4 doesn't mean that statement is wrong. "But we have the most progressive tax system in the world according to the OECD....Look at the UK. Their top 10% earns 32% of all income, while the US is 33.5%. But our top 10% pay 45% of all the taxes. The top 10% in the UK pay 39%. Quite a bit less. Canada? Their top 10% pay 36% of the tax bill. Germany? Their top 10% pay 31% of the tax bill." Another BS stat from seattleeng. The reason that our top 10% may pay a greater percentage of taxes than other countries is not because our system is more "progressive," but because our top 10% earn so much more relative to the rest of us than the top 10% in other countries do. It may be due more to extreme income differentials than anything to do with tax rates. Given the right distribution, we could have that result even if we had a flat tax and everyone else had a progressive taxation system. Really, this example should be in the book "how to lie with statistics." Well, maybe it's not a lie, but you can't tell without more information, and so one should be inherently suspicious. And if you look at all taxes paid, it turns out that our system is indeed pretty flat and not very progressive at all. http://lanekenworthy.net/2009/01/05/how-progressive-are-our-taxes/ The federal income tax is one of the few items that prevent it from being regressive.

- dsimon

November 27, 2010 at 4:28pm

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