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Go Home Not So Fast, Obama

POLITICS AUGUST 13, 2009

Not So Fast, Obama

With Republicans blaming the stimulus for every sagging stock price and shrinking paycheck, you could hardly begrudge the White House for touting some good economic news these last few weeks. In late July, the Commerce department reported that GDP had shrunk by an unexpectedly mild 1 percent, prompting the president to observe that, “in the last few months, the economy has done measurably better than expected.” A week later, it was the labor market that brought a pleasant surprise. Upon learning that the economy shed just 247,000 jobs in July (the least since last August), the president took to the Rose Garden to suggest that “the worst may be behind us.”


To its credit, the administration has hardly gotten carried away with these pronouncements. Publicly, officials now refer to the economy as a once-deathly ill patient that’s stable but still sick--hardly a triumphalist metaphor. Privately, administration officials point to Bush’s May 2003 “Mission Accomplished” speech as a cautionary tale and shrink from any suggestion that they’re claiming victory.


To the extent that there’s a problem, it’s not so much what the administration says as what it assumes: that the business cycle exerts a solid gravitational pull, that what goes down must eventually come up. “[B]ecause of the Recovery Act, other rescue measures we have taken, and the economy’s natural resilience, most forecasters are now predicting that GDP growth is likely to turn positive by the end of the year,” Christina Romer, head of Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, said in a speech last week (emphasis added). Romer went on to stress that 70 percent of the stimulus will be spent by next October--implying that growth should be largely self-sustaining beyond that.


But what if that’s not the case? Even granting that the worst is over, will the economy really be poised for steady growth just a year or two after the deepest recession since the 1930s? And, if not, can the White House afford to wait much longer?


 


Pretty much everything we know about the recessions that follow financial crises suggests that they last for an exceptionally long time. The reason has to do with a distinctive feature of these recessions: vast oceans of debt. During boom times, as a recent IMF report explains, people save less and borrow more, leading to a surge of consumer spending. But once the crisis hits, overextended households abruptly retrench. Saving shoots up as they pay down their debts; consumption plummets and can languish for years.


Late last year, the economists Carmen Reinhart of the University of Maryland and Ken Rogoff of Harvard sought to quantify the length and intensity of recessions that follow financial crises by looking at several recent examples. What they found was alarming: On average, the countries they studied saw their housing markets drop 35 percent (from peak to bottom) over a stretch lasting five to six years. Their stock markets fell 56 percent over three-and-a-half years. Unemployment rose 7 percentage points over five years, and GDP dropped a breathtaking 9 percent over two years.


The good news is that, by the standards of the Reinhart and Rogoff paper, we may be nearing the end: U.S. housing prices had dropped by about one-third as of May, and the S&P 500 had lost about 53 percent of its value when it hit bottom in February. The unemployment rate is up about five percentage points since its 2007 low, suggesting that some pain remains, but far less than we’ve suffered already. And while GDP has only contracted by 4 percent--less than half the average from the Reinhart and Rogoff study--the authors explain that such declines tend to be less severe in developed countries than developing countries, which are vulnerable to abrupt withdrawals of credit by foreign banks and investors. Long story short: One can certainly be acquainted with the Reinhart and Rogoff analysis, as the administration’s top economic officials are, and still believe we’re only looking at another year or two of misery.


The problem with whatever optimism you might draw from Reinhart and Rogoff is that their conclusions come with an enormous caveat attached: Almost every country that’s emerged from a recession caused by a financial crisis has exported its way out of the mire. “[T]hese historical comparisons were based on episodes that, with the notable exception of the Great Depression in the United States, were individual or regional in nature,” the authors note. “The global nature of the crisis will make it far more difficult for many countries to grow their way out through higher exports”--since no country is flush enough to serve as a dumping ground for everyone else.


Absent a strong demand for exports, the most plausible way for a country to crawl out of this kind of recession is for households to keep paying off debt until they can afford to spend again. Indeed, as Paul Krugman argued in a recent lecture series at the London School of Economics, the reason the United States didn’t slip back into depression after World War II--something many economists feared at the time--is that, 15 years after the initial crash, people had finally put their finances in order.


Unfortunately, as the Depression example suggests, this can take agonizingly long. According to data from the Federal Reserve, household debt peaked at 128 percent of disposable income in 2007 (meaning the average person was borrowing* almost one-third more than they were making after taxes). As of the end of March, despite a dramatic rise in saving after the crisis hit, that ratio had only fallen to 123 percent. (The same ratio stood at under 50 percent in the mid-’50s and around 70 percent as late as the mid-’80s.) A recent San Francisco Fed paper notes that it took Japanese companies, which had a similar level of indebtedness when their real-estate bubble popped in the early ’90s, about a decade to push the ratio down to a still-high 95 percent.


 


Alas, it’s hard to believe voters will wait a decade for something resembling normal growth. Even three years’ worth of patience seems like a lot to ask--which presents a problem for a president who has to run for re-election in 2012.


So far as I can tell, the only solution to the underlying economic problem is something that’s been a dirty word in Washington the last generation or two: industrial policy (that is, an active government role in the development of certain industries.) In his LSE lectures, Krugman quipped that “if someone could invent the 21-st century moral equivalent of the railroad, or actually even the moral equivalent of IT in the ’90s, that would help a lot.” I agree--that would help a lot. But waiting around for this to happen seems risky when the alternative is a decade of stagnation.


If, on the other hand, the government were to place some massive bets on R&D, we might substantially increase our chances of stumbling onto a major technological breakthrough--or at least accelerate the process. True, industrial policy is a lousy idea under normal circumstances: Any invention with lucrative commercial applications should have a high enough expected return to attract private capital Using government money to fund progressively longer shots is likely to be wasteful. (The exception is technology that would be socially useful but whose commercial applications aren’t immediately obvious.) But, in a deep recession like this one, the case for industrial policy gets much stronger. At worst, the additional government spending would inject some needed stimulus into the economy. At best, it might yield a technological breakthrough that could attract a subsequent wave of investment and make growth self-sustaining.


In fairness, the White House has already been thinking along these lines. Last week, it announced $2.4 billion in grant awards to companies working on the “next generation of batteries and electric vehicles,” money that was allocated under the stimulus. But while a whole lot better than nothing, $2.4 billion is pretty meager given the scale of the problem. Why not 50 times that amount, spread out over dozens of promising fields--like solar power and nanotechnology? It’s an ambitious approach that would no doubt be controversial (though there are politically tougher tasks than handing out $100 billion to corporate America). But it sure beats waiting for that recovery to materialize … sometime in 2018.


Noam Scheiber is a senior editor of The New Republic.


CORRECTION: This piece originally stated that "the average person was spending almost one-third more than they were making after taxes." The line should have said "borrowing" rather than "spending." We regret the error.

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>solar power Surely you're joking, Mr. Scheiber.

- bulbman1066

August 13, 2009 at 12:27am

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Dear Noam. I disagree with your "solution" - an industrial policy to stimulate new technology. The problem with your idea is that to increase the Nation's Wealth, we need to actually make the products invented here in the US. Our manufacturing industry is no longer able to produce the best products at the least cost. No matter what new products are "invented" here, the products will be manufactured off-shore. It's the manufacturing that produces the wealth, not the idea. We don't need new products. We need a new manufacturing model. There are plenty of products on the market we could manufacture in the US. The good news is that it is possible for American Manufacturers to compete. The industrial policy should be directed to discover how to improve manufacturing productivity, not inventing new products. There are answers waiting to be discovered and implemented. No new technology is needed. You can turn the manufacturing industry around almost overnight with existing resources. Seek and you will find.

- RJBJr

August 13, 2009 at 7:49am

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Man, talk about trying to justify a "hail Mary!" The underlying thesis of this piece seems to be, "we just can't afford under any circumstances to let the other side win in 2012, so let's try something really speculative!" Sounds kind of like the degenerate at the roulette table who only has $100 left in his pocket of the thousands he came in with, and in a speculative fit, throws all his wad down on 17. Big reward, big risk.

- DaveZ

August 13, 2009 at 7:59am

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Let me say it a bit differently. I'm concerned that the world we live in now is categorically different from the world in which previous financial crises occurred. We can't make new things and export them to teeming masses in developing countries anymore -- for the first time, they're doing the making themselves. We're now a nation of Holiday Inn night clerks, waitresses, and financial asset manipulators. We can't all have those jobs. How do we employ the rest?

- Mike

August 13, 2009 at 8:51am

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We find ourselves in this exceptionally deep recession because, as a country, we haven't been creating much physical infrastructure, i.e. real "wealth" for perhaps 2 decades. We've allowed our industrial base to be largely exported, our transportation and energy grid is a shambles, and we have relied on consumerism and soft technologies such as internet/IT and financial products to hold our economy together for the last 15 years. I agree with the thrust of this article, that a re-industrialization of the country is in order. Instead of a $787B "stimulus" package which has proven to be misdirected and incoherent at best, we need an Apollo-Project type approach to the problem. If we're going to essentially print money from nothing, let's at least get something tangible at the end of the process which will increase the equity of the nation at the end. How about 25 new nuclear power plants to power the coming all-electric cars, with a new transmission grid, and a national reprocessing facility reducing the waste by 90%? That will put a million people to work right there. What about a new high speed rail line crossing the country, the fastest in the world built with American workers and technology? Another several hundred thousand jobs. In short, we have all the resources, the people, and the need to do these two examples and a dozen other necessary national projects in order for the country to build real wealth. What we lack is the unified will to execute such designs like we had with Apollo, and a government which has impeded industrial development for decades. As a people, maybe we thought we could let the rest of the world build everything we need and shift the industrialization and associated environmental impact away from our consumer paradise, while we made money in a virtual world. It has proven to be ultimately a fallacy. We haven't created much real physical wealth since the 80s, and now we are paying the price of stagnation.

- John Jay

August 13, 2009 at 9:52am

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What Schreiber has to say makes sense until he gets to his industrial policy cure-all. His ostensible goal is restoring economic growth after the fiscal melt-down. In practice, "industrial policy" has nothing to do with restoring growth and everything to do with funding politically favored activities (regardless of economic merit). Perhaps Schreiber's version of "industrial policy" envisions a spending spree where money is distributed to anything deemed (by whom?) promising (measured by what scale?). Far from being visionary exercises in finding the next revolutionary development, Government-run endeavors of this sort are more likely to be backward looking exercises (bureaucracies being inherently conservative, devoted in the first instance to their own survival and expansion). Schreiber's own list is a mismash of generalities (e.g., nanotech) and the golden oldies from a decade or more ago (e.g., solar power). In the end, his prescription requires the belief that Government functionaries are clear-seeing visionaries, and that "industrial policy" won't turn into the feeding frenzy of the politically connected that characterized our jerry-built "stimulus." I can't think of any reason to have much confidence in either.

- RHD

August 13, 2009 at 10:19am

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I suggest those interested in this topic read a story at WSJ's online site about a new paper from the Kansas City FRB. The paper's authors predict very long-term high unemployment according to the Journal story. An ugly prospect!

- lsernoff

August 13, 2009 at 11:23am

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Re-industrialization is expensive. And our elites have amply demonstrated that they are not interested in funding that kind of expense. Heavy subsidy by the government might produce enough of a "clean energy" speculative boom among "the investor class" to once again temporarily obscure the ways we have dismantled, and continue to dismantle, our consumer economy -- but I don't see any indication that our financial elites are willing, anymore than they have been in the past, to pay the taxes or accept the less than speculative rates of return that real, long-term investment -- in infra-structure, education and training, living wage jobs -- requires. For more than 3 decades the country's financial elites have been building an economy designed to create astonishing wealth for themselves -- low tax, low wage, sustained by consumer spending fueled not by wage and job growth but by an ever-broader use of credit (by borrowers who would never have been thought credit worthy in the past) at extremely high rates of interest (rates that a previous generation outlawed as usury). The inevitable destructiveness of this absurd and contradictory strategy, and the fact that the mighty American consumer market (that, ironically, increasingly the entire world was depending on) was faltering in the face of de-industrialization, automation, union suppression and wage stagnation and decline, was already apparent in the late 1980s (to anyone willing to look honestly at what was going on). Lower interest rates and an explosion in home re-financing, plus the irrational exuberance of the high tech boom, allowed people to, temporarily, avert their eyes from that reality. But, once the irrational booms, first in high tech, then in real estate, subsided, we were left to face the unhappy reality the short-sighted self interest of those elites had created. (And, as middle class taxpayers, left to bail out the very interests that have been working hard to undermine our own best economic interest.) These people are still in charge of our political institutions -- and looking for a quick fix (provided by the rest of us) to save them from the consequences of their blinkered self-interest. They have no more interest in policies that serve the broader interest now than they ever did.

- esmense

August 13, 2009 at 11:59am

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It's not just that we need industry, we also need incentive to have industry. Our laws have become so stringent on what industrial plants and manufacturers can and cannot do that they are essentially driven overseas by necessity. As such, if we can pare down requirements, get the unions to shut up (I can already hear the backlash from that comment) and make it actually affordable and welcoming to manufacture in America, then businesses will actually want to manufacture in America again instead of fleeing to China and India.

- findthetiger129

August 13, 2009 at 12:00pm

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After WWII most of the industrialized world's productive capacity had been destroyed; not the case currently. Our economic problem requires a focus on demand and yet we continue to futz around with bank stabilization as if lending will provide a solution. It won't. More ominously, government borrowing at the current rate cannot go on indefinitely. Stimulus has to be driven by the private sector, which implies job creation and higher wages. Eventually, like it or not, our trade policies will have to be addressed.

- Urban Frost

August 13, 2009 at 12:49pm

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Industrial Policy is a bad idea. It will not accelerate the next technological breakthrough. It will merely divert money from private R&D to politically-directed R&D. Just like the stimulus and the so-called "cap and trade" bill, money will be allocated politically by Congress, a group of mostly corrupt, no-too-bright parasites who protect labor unions and other politically-favored groups at the expense of the rest of us. Look how the Republicans under Bush and Democrats under Obama both gave money to organizations that should have been allowed to fail. Instead, they are still paying fat salaries and bonuses.

- Dale Ogden

August 13, 2009 at 1:01pm

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Oh boy Noam just what we need; more state intervention. Too bad there are pesky facts such as budget deficits, high and rising taxes, enlitilement spending out the wazoo .... Thank goodness the American public is not going to permit the US to slip into an industrial planning quagmire of low economic growth, high structural unemployment, unsusstainable social spending, etc. ala the EU. But I guess Noam is counting on a Euro style social democracy complete with nationalized health care to placate the great unwashed who don't read TNR.

- bmarks56

August 13, 2009 at 2:37pm

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Great ideas all. But as long as unions dominate labor, the cost of manufacturing will be artificially high. There is no incentive for firms (or government) to hire American labor when labor unions inflate the costs so dramitically. Reform union/labor laws and we will again have a manufacturing base for a re-industrialization of our economy. Too bad there's absolutely no chance of this happening so long as those beholden to the unions run our government.

- dnaguy11

August 13, 2009 at 4:38pm

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Noam, "According to data from the Federal Reserve, household debt peaked at 128 percent of disposable income in 2007 (meaning the average person was spending almost one-third more than they were making after taxes)." I respectfully suggest you have someone explain to you what the household debt statistic means. Best, Patrick Byrne

- Patrick Byrne

August 13, 2009 at 5:20pm

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dnaguy11 -- Unions haven't "dominated labor" for a very long time. Union workers now make up only about 13% of the private sector workforce. Labor is a dead horse that has been dead for at least a couple of decades. It's more than past time to stop beating it.

- esmense

August 13, 2009 at 5:49pm

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dnaguy11 -- Following up on my previous post, I should be a little more precise in terms of the percentage of MANUFACTURING jobs that are unionized. In durable goods manufacturing the percentage of union workers is very slightly higher than the percentage of union workers in the private sector overall -- about 15%. In non-durable goods manufacuring the percentage of union workers is slightly lower than in the private sector economy overall -- about 12%. The only area of the private sector where unionization even approaches one quarter of the workforce is transportation -- at 23%. These low levels of unionization make it very unlikely that the unions account for our problems. Especially when many of our competitors have manufacturing workforces with unionization rates of 40% and more.

- esmense

August 13, 2009 at 6:37pm

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Urban Frost has it exactly right. Scheiber is in a time warp (joined by the current Washington crowd), which assumes that we are still in the 30 years after World War II, when the US could do anything economically, no matter how dumb. Half of the rest of the world was recovering from the war. The other half barred itself from competing with us with bureaucracy (India) or economic system (China, Russia, Warsaw Pact countries). The 21st century will not be like that. We can either choose a lightly taxed, lightly regulated, economically flexible society that welcomes skilled immigrants and foreign capital--OR--we can go the way of Argentina, which in 1900-1920 was one of the half dozen most prosperous countries in the world. This is the only shot we have at paying a significant part of the entitlements already promised and remaining prosperous.

- elwin9

August 13, 2009 at 9:39pm

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esmense: Your comments that unions' influence over labor has waned are correct. What hasn't waned is unions' influence over the Democratic party. Much of their agenda, such as card check and tariff protection, is contrary to the views and interests of the non-unionized majority. That said, I would like to know more than I do about why highly-unionized, high wage Germany continues to maintain its manufacturing base while ours steadily crumbles. Like you said, our problems can't be laid solely on the unions.

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August 14, 2009 at 12:18pm

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Industrial policy is a hot button for fiscal conservatives like me (usually a bone-headed option - think corn based ethanol (today) and syn-fuels (70's)). That said, while the Internet was developed by the incredible talents of the free market, the original infrastructure was built by DARPA, an amazing and amazingly low profile government agency. The original space race spun off huge innovative benefits to US industry and technology. It would be much better to abandon the Nancy Pelosi generated "Stimulus" that is building more structures for the Milwaukee School District, a district in enrollment free fall, and engage in pure and applied research that at the least will employ scientists and technologists and maintain the US lead in such actiivities, and just might be the next Internet.

- keithmswartz

August 14, 2009 at 12:24pm

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