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TEL AVIV JOURNAL SEPTEMBER 6, 2011

A Third-Party Candidate in 2012? Probably Not.

Well, not quite or maybe just not yet. Tom Friedman has called for the establishment of a third party, which is the alternative put forward almost every time a Democratic president disappoints. And Tom’s disappointment is hardly an insignificant occurrence in the president’s ongoing campaign for reelection. This time, there’s another incentive, and it is that the Republicans may nominate, as the Democrats see it, one of several crackpots who just might win in 2012.

Of course, this is not exactly logical. The last time there was a “substantial” independent in the presidential race was 2000, when Ralph Nader (I’ve known him for decades and I’ve always believed he was a lunatic; I’m not going to tell you about his finickiness with blueberries at our picnic) and only 537 of the 97,488 votes he won in Florida threw the election to the GOP nominee, the already-ridiculed-by-liberals George Bush. (He knew nothing, right? Well, I believe, on the evidence, that he knows at least as much as Barack Obama, and quite possibly more!) When Republican congressman John Anderson ran as an independent against incumbent Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan, he got so few votes that he didn’t influence the outcome at all. Reagan won by a landslide larger than FDR’s popular and electoral victory against Alf Landon in 1936. Then, in 1992, there was Ross Perot who, despite winning 19 percent of the ballot count—split between voters who would have otherwise cast their ballots evenly between Vice President George Bush and Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton—was also a weirdo, a real weirdo. (What was that about the Republicans planning to upset his daughter’s nuptials? Or his stepping out of the race and back into it?)

When Vice President Harry Truman succeeded to the presidency upon Franklin Roosevelt’s death on April 12, 1945, there was immediate rumbling against the succession, even though it was constitutionally axiomatic. Arthur Schlesinger Jr., an eloquent historian but a very pompous man, began to argue that, rather than Truman being the Democratic nominee in 1948, it should be Dwight Eisenhower. This came to nothing. (Ike had no interest in being nominated by either party in 1948.) But two wings of the Democratic Party began the long process of secession. On the right, Senator J. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina ran for president as a “Dixiecrat” and won four southern states. He was off the ballot in 29 states. (In 2002, Senator Trent Lott resigned his position as senate minority leader because at Thurmond’s 100th birthday he lamented the 1948 defeat: “If the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn’t have had all these problems over the years.” What problems? Everybody knew what he was talking about.)

By the time Henry Wallace became a Democrat he had already positioned himself on the agrarian left of the party but with more than a soupcon of aggressive spiritualism. He had a long-time guru whom he addressed as “guru.” A scientific corn farmer and the editor and owner of agricultural publications (later the owner of a giant seed company), Wallace climbed quickly in stature among Democrats. FDR made him secretary of agriculture in his first and second terms. Then, when FDR’s vice president, John Nance Garner, turned against his boss and actually ran against him in the pre-convention proceedings, Wallace was tapped as vice president for the third term, a position from which he quickly moved to the left ... to the left left. In 1944, Roosevelt dispensed with his services as veep but designated the sacrificial lamb as secretary of commerce. After much provocation by Wallace, including his sweet affections for Josef Stalin, Harry Truman fired him and, in due course, he was named editor-in-chief of The New Republic by its owner, Michael Straight, who, alas, had been a minor Soviet agent—but a Soviet agent, nonetheless—in Britain. After about a year of active fellow-travelling (does everybody, does anybody recall the meaning of that word?), Wallace left TNR and became the presidential candidate of the Progressive Party in 1948, the American Labor Party in New York. He was off the ballot in just three states but received some 20,000 votes less than Thurmond—and no states at all. He did, however, receive a bit more than 1.15 million votes altogether, of which some 700,000 came from New York and California, presumably from the pro-communist labor unions and from Jews who had not yet learned. Oh yes, and the big scare that reactionary Thomas E. Dewey, the Republican governor of New York, would win collapsed with Truman laughing and holding up the front page of the Chicago Tribune, its topside reading, “Dewey by a Landslide.” 

So the notion that a third party would be a successful party, even in times of stress, is dubious. Theodore Roosevelt did run in 1912 as the third-party candidate of the Progressive Party and came in second, winning six states to Republican William Howard Taft’s two. But Woodrow Wilson won 40 states. He was not an incumbent.

The New Republic was founded in 1914 on the embers of the fiery conflict between Roosevelt and Wilson two years before. 

Martin Peretz is editor-in-chief emeritus of The New Republic.

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What about George Wallace in 1968? He got more electoral votes than Thurmond (46-39) and definitely affected the outcome of that very close election. He fits the crackpot profile too.

- propjoe

September 6, 2011 at 5:20am

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I agree with MP the historical lack of success of third parties. This time around is even worst. There is apathy in the country. Nobody has strong ideas that the people would rally around. The fact that there are 25 million unemployed and 10 million homes under foreclosure is no incentive for the country to be upset about. People just don't trust government, the media, our institutions. Either don't care or just are under anesthesia. Or ??? Everything else is functioning just fine. Sports stadiums are full of people. The stock market, the large companies are making money hands full. Illegal drugs are a trillion dollar business. We are spending money in wars around the world in large amounts. So we are the most powerful country in the world and really there is no major problem apparently. My bloggings and concerns about the unemployment get almost no attention from other bloggers. Maybe the unemployed at 25 million do not blog, do not use computers or simply do not care. Well folks I am going to watch the US Tennis Open watch the finals , they have thousands of spectators going to the stadiums in New York. Tickets are expensive. Also I will be watching my favorite baseball teams New York Yankees and Philadelphia Phillies their stadiums are always full all year. The same goes for the Boston Red Sox. Ah it is September, watch the football and my Philadelphia Eagles. All of the stadiums are full and tickets are not cheap. Who said we are in a recession. Who said that? Sox. Ah it is September yes, I will be watching the Philadelphia Eagles, the football t

- JAIMECHUCH

September 6, 2011 at 6:02am

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"already-ridiculed-by-liberals George Bush. (He knew nothing, right? Well, I believe, on the evidence, that he knows at least as much as Barack Obama, and quite possibly more!) " Yes, he knew how to start senseless wars while cutting taxes, instituting Randian philosophy as the core of the GOP, alienating huge swaths of the country and creating a fiscal mess for the next several generations to out of. I could go on but I'll let other commenters describe in their words the worst, most destructive and stupidest president of the past 80 years for the feeble-minded Peretz.

- tmmats

September 6, 2011 at 9:20am

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A third-party would be a sure-fire way for liberals or centrists to lose. What has Tom Friedman been smoking? How about nominating a more committed, combative presidential nominee at the 2012 convention? That would be a better way to assure a Democratic victory in both the White House and Congress.

- amidut

September 6, 2011 at 9:26am

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am waiting until October (surprise!) to see if Obama follows LBJ into not seeking re-election. Obama may not survive his 3Q (lack of) fundraising totals. Will the Dems recruit David Petraeus or Hillary? All America needs is a candidate who inspires confidence. Speculation about a third party candidate is futile - no billionaire who could access the ballot in time AND inspire confidence.

- K2K

September 6, 2011 at 9:27am

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thank god this kook is only 'emeritus' -- where do they keep him nowadays?

- themekons

September 6, 2011 at 10:36am

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It will be interesting to see the degree of influence Americans Elect has in the 2012 presidential election. www.americanselect.org

- bluecoyote

September 6, 2011 at 11:11am

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Dear lord, the historical inaccuracies! The 1992 Presidential Election. There was no election in 1990. Reagan's electoral triumph in 1980 was not greater than FDR over Landon in 1936. The end result was 50.7%-41.0%-6.6%. Electorally, it was 489 to 49, and 44 states to 6 + DC. Anderson drew more from Carter than Reagan, according to polling, and while he wouldn't have swung the election, it probably would have been closer, flipped some states, etc. By comparison, FDR defeated Landon 60.8% - 36.5%. He won 523 Electoral votes to Landon's 8, and 48 of 50 states. (No DC in those days). Now, maybe he's confusing it with 1984, where Reagan beat Mondale, but his popular vote margin 58.8%-40.6% isn't close, and his electoral margin (525-13) is also less than FDR's. He did win one more state, making it 49/51, but really, it's not FDR's 1936 win, and certainly 1980 wasn't. Have we no editor?

- Crock1701

September 6, 2011 at 11:16am

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There's a simple reason why there are no successful third-parties: anyone who votes for them forfeits their right to say which of the main two parties is worse. That fact also explains why most of the third-party candidates are kooks: anyone who's not a kook would realize that their only potential role would be as spoiler and thus sit out. If you want third-parties, change the electoral system so that their voters would not have to forfeit, or even dilute, their right to say which of the majors is worse. ABOLISH PLURALITY VOTING!

- sighthnd

September 6, 2011 at 1:28pm

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It wasn't very long ago that TNR was full of articles about the demise of the Republican Party, with more than a little concern expressed about America becoming a one-party state. Then there are the certifiable kooks who predicted a pennant for the Cubs.

- rayward

September 6, 2011 at 1:48pm

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"The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. Surely some revelation is at hand. . . " -W. B. Yeats

- Konstantin

September 6, 2011 at 3:24pm

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Wow, I can barely believe my eyes! An article that doesn't mention Israel, Islam, Muslims, etc?! Unbelievable. Even during Marty's exhile in Jerusalem!

- RJSampson1

September 6, 2011 at 4:44pm

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RJSampson1 why don't you fuck off. Didn't you stop subscribing to TNR?

- arnon

September 6, 2011 at 8:48pm

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Awww.. arnon and his angry little F-bombs. Feels like the old days. I renewed!

- RJSampson1

September 6, 2011 at 9:32pm

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I don't know about the old days, but since you don't seem comfortable with this pro Israel Judeo centric magazine why don't you subscribe to some hyper anti-Israel publications. You have no end of choices. Start with David Duke and them move on to Walt and Mearsheimer. They seem to speak you lingo, dingo.

- arnon

September 6, 2011 at 10:53pm

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Thomas Friedman just hasn't heard the news yet. He would have learned the facts if he had listened to Norman and Michael, but he was too busy making his name. That's Norman Thomas and Michael Harrington. You know, those old, moth-eaten Socialists. They learned the hard way, the old fashion way. By 1950, Thomas argued against national third party electoral activity and Harrington spoke of creating a first party--a majority party of the democratic left. Listened to Thomas Friedman and his co-author tonight at the 92Y. No mention of the vast inequalities in class and wealth, persistence of the race issue, bloated military budget, illusion of post Cold War "peace dividend." Unhappily, found his discussion a-historical and fundamentally shallow.

- LawrenceGulotta

September 6, 2011 at 11:23pm

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Arnon, Sorry to bust your bubble, but this isn't Ha'aretz. And Marty no longer owns it. This is not a "Judeo-centric" magazine anymore than the New York Times is. And damn dude... I'm no self-hating Jew here! But this is a journal of American politics. It's actually refreshing to see Marty focus on something else for a change. And seriously man, you gotta watch the language. It's really uncalled for, and I'm sure it's offensive to numerous readers.

- RJSampson1

September 7, 2011 at 1:54am

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RJSampson1 is not a self-hating Jew. No self-hating Jew is a self-hating Jew. A self-hating Jew is as per definition a Jew who loves himself all the more because he is such an exceptionally good Jew, the kind of Jew some non-Jews love to love, the only Jew who understands what Judaism is really and truly about. And that has nothing whatsoever to do with Israel.

- noga1

September 7, 2011 at 12:27pm

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Dr. Peretz's article entitled "A Third-Party Candidate in 2012? Probably Not" is not about the State of Israel, the Jews in Israel or in the Diaspora, Jewishness, the Torah, self-hatred or self-love, theological philosophy, etc. It is whether a so-called "third party" of centrist philosophy should be created in the United States of America. The introduction of religious issues, ad hominem attackes on the character or ability of Dr. Peretz, are irrelevant and immaterial to this discussion. Those that wish to interject or impose religious beliefs and theocratic remonstrations into the discussion of independent American efforts to form a third party should kindly adjourn to the nearest house of worship to continue their internecian and hyperbolic conversations and debates.

- LawrenceGulotta

September 7, 2011 at 3:24pm

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LawrenceGulotta: This is a message board attached to articles posted by TNR authors. We, the commenters, have paid good money for the privilege of commenting, in any way we wish as long as it is done in a civil manner, about either the article or the comments that follow it. And if the discussion digresses into side alleys, well, this is how discussions develop. For example, I find your own comments to be garrulous, often incomprehensible and always high-falutin, aiming, I suppose, at the highest common denominator. It never occurred to me to admonish you to betake yourself and your Rococoish thunderbolts to the nearest ivory tower, or wherever it is you dwell, and leave us to pursue our conversations in peace. So please be good enough to reciprocate in kind.

- noga1

September 7, 2011 at 4:57pm

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RJSampson1: "This is not a "Judeo-centric" magazine..." Like I said if you don't like the magazine (and yes it is a magazine concerned with Israel and Jewish topics but not only that) you can always unsubscribe. If you don't like my language don't talk nonsense.

- arnon

September 7, 2011 at 5:26pm

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"The introduction of religious issues, ad hominem attackes on the character or ability of Dr. Peretz, are irrelevant and immaterial to this discussion." Yes, and tell that to Sampson.

- arnon

September 7, 2011 at 5:28pm

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This is not the time to form a third party. Peretz got it exactly right. A Third party will definitely throw the election to the Tea Party.

- arnon

September 7, 2011 at 5:29pm

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on a side note, apparently Jonathan Chait is exiting TNR for New York Magazine. hard to know what TNR is evolving into.

- K2K

September 7, 2011 at 6:08pm

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Chait is a prolific writer but I am not too impressed by his style or thinking.

- noga1

September 7, 2011 at 6:40pm

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"hard to know what TNR is evolving into." Probably into another Atlantic or Harper's with a better books section.

- arnon

September 8, 2011 at 12:59pm

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