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Please Ask Ryan About This Tonight

Just in time for tonight’s vice presidential debate, the Obama campaign has released an ad about a big government health care plan that Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have in their crosshairs. But the ad doesn’t focus on Medicare, about which you’ve heard so much this election season. It focuses on Medicaid, about which far too little has been said. Although Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have proposed to transform both programs, the changes and spending cuts they have in mind for Medicaid would probably be more devastating. And the poor wouldn’t be the only ones to feel it. 

The main reason is a group that many people don’t associate with Medicaid: Senior citizens. Medicaid provides health insurance to low-income people and, at any one time, it does so primarily for non-elderly—mostly kids and their mothers. But two-thirds of the money that Medicaid spends goes to that minority of enrollees who are disabled or over 65, because they are the ones with really big medical bills.

Many of these people are “dual eligibles.” They use Medicare for their regular and acute medical expenses, whether it’s getting a routine checkup or treatment for a heart attack. They rely on Medicaid to pay the portion of the bills Medicare does not cover, like deductibles for hospitals stays. They also rely on Medicaid to pay for long-term care, whether it’s staying in a nursing home or having caregivers at their own homes. That last part is critically important. Staying in a nursing home is very expensive—like $70,000-a-year expensive, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. Having part- or full-time assistance at home also runs into tens of thousands of dollars a year.

Many elderly Americans can’t pay those bills, at least not for any significant length of time. That’s when they turn to Medicaid. Today, 70 percent of people who live in nursing homes use Medicaid—many of them middle class people who, having burned through their savings, are as dependent upon the program as people who never had the money in the first place.

So what is Romney proposing to do?

Like Ryan, who proposed an almost identical scheme in his budget, Romney would give the states a lot more control over the program. Proponents of this approach suggest that states could use the flexibility to find more creative and, ultimately, less costly ways of providing care. When Romney and Ryan talk about their scheme, they almost always describe it in those terms—as a way to foster innovation.

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In principle, it’s not a crazy idea. Some states would take advantage of flexibility to encourage better care, although the trick, as always, is making sure states don’t exploit flexibility to back out of the program’s commitments to their neediest residents. But Romney and Ryan don’t simply want to change the way Medicaid works. They also want to reduce the money it gets from the federal government. 

Romney has said that, under his plan, the federal government would limit its federal Medicaid contribution to inflation plus one percentage point. That may sound like a reasonable rate, until you remember that health care costs almost always rise faster than regular prices, that the population is growing, and that the population is getting older as it gets bigger. Factor that in, as budget analysts do, and it works out to a cut of $800 billion over ten years, relative to what Medicaid would have cost otherwise. Or, to put it another way, Medicaid spending in 2022 would be about one-third less than it would have been without the block grant. And that figure probably understates the impact. Among other things, Romney has also committed himself to an overall cap on federal spending that would, almost certainly, require steeper cuts

Conservatives point to Rhode Island, which had some success reducing Medicaid costs, as proof that states can live with these cuts. Don’t be surprised if Ryan mentions that tonight, should the topic come up. But subsequent analyses suggested the savings in Rhode Island were not nearly that big. Truth is, it’s virtually inconceivable that states could save enough money to make up for the severe funding reductions that Romney and Ryan have proposed. Instead, states would have to scale back their programs. The only question would be how.

When researchers for the Kaiser Foundation and Urban Institute analyzed the original House Republican proposal, which was based on Ryan’s, they determined that between 14 and 27 million low-income people would lose insurance. That’s the figure I’ve cited on several occasions in this space. But, for the purposes of that analysis, the researchers assumed states would protect the elderly and disabled from cuts. elderly. Most likely, at least some if not all states would also cut spending on long-term care. That would spare some non-elderly people from pain, but only by spreading that pain to everybody else, including the elderly and disabled.

And the pain would be severe. States might respond by paying providers less, which sounds easy and efficient until you realize that Medicaid already pays a lot less than other insurance programs. Nursing homes and home care providers would likely respond by reducing the availability of services—say, limiting the number of nursing home beds available to Medicaid patients—or paying less money to staff, which is a surefire way to attract lower quality providers. If you’ve read any stories about understaffing and abuse in nursing homes, you can understand why this would be a really bad idea. “We are talking about [patients] who are pretty vulnerable and frail,” says Barbara Lyons, a senior vice president at the Kaiser Foundation. “And we know that staffing and quality of nursing homes needs to be improved. You worry what happens if, on top of a system where improvements are needed, what the impact cuts related to a block grant would have.”

Alternatively, states could target beneficiaries directly. They could put a cap on the number of people in the program or do away with existing financial protections—by, for example, ending “spousal impoverishment protection.” Under that provision, which has been part of the federal Medicaid statute since 1987, an elderly couple can apply for Medicaid without completely exhausting assets and income, so that a stronger and healthier spouse can continue to live independently. As a briefing from the Center for Medicare Advocacy explains, “The loss of this statutory protection could return the country to the time when all of a couple’s money was used for nursing home care and the spouse in the community was left with, literally, no income at all.”

States could find even more straightforward ways of passing along higher costs, like asking the people who use long-term care to pay higher deductibles and co-payments. Or they could change the income thresholds for Medicaid, so that fewer people qualify for the program in the first place. “The picture is not pretty,” Howard Gleckman, a resident fellow at the Urban Institute and author of Caring for our Parents, wrote last year. Gleckman, who knows as much about this issue as anybody in Washington, went on to explain that the rules “are already very stringent. For instance, to be Medicaid eligibile a person typically must have less than $2,000 in financial assets.” If the federal government lets states make the rules even more stringent, Gleckman concluded, “people may have to be even sicker and poorer than they are today” in order to qualify.

Other experts offer similar assessments. “Cuts to nursing home payment rates of that size would likely mean significantly reduced access to nursing homes and lower quality of care,” Edwin Park of the Center on Budget told me via e-mail. “And these cuts would be on top of the payment reductions nursing homes and other providers have been experiencing as a result of states closing their budget shortfalls.”

By the way, don’t assume this doesn’t affect you simply because, at the moment, you’re not old or disabled. Age or disability is bound to get you at some point. And before then it will probably get one of your close relatives, if it hasn’t already. A major impetus for the creation of Medicare and Medicaid in the 1960s was the realization that crushing bills for the elderly and long-term care affected entire families, indirectly or directly—punishing those without the resources to keep up with the huge bills. Medicaid and Medicare haven’t completely solved this problem, but they’ve gone a long way towards doing so.

Romney and Ryan would take away that protection. They would expose the elderly and disabled, as well their loved ones, to the kind of suffering this country spent decades trying to eradicate. Sometime tonight, or perhaps in the two remaining presidential debates, I hope the Republican nominees get a chance to explain why they think that’s such a great idea.

Update: For more on why we shouldn't expect all states to use flexibility wisely, check out this recent Ed Kilgore item on what he calls the "Mississippi model." This is a really important subject—Ed really nails it—and I'll have more to say about it very shortly.

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Several months ago the other Jonathan commented that Romney and Ryan can blow enough smoke over the issue (I believe the specific issue was Medicare but it could be most any issue) that voters will be confused as to the differences, if any, between the candidates with respect to the issue. Little did he know. Long-term care, and the role of Medicaid in funding it, is one of the more difficult issues. "By the way, don't assume this doesn't affect you simply because, at the moment, you’re not old or disabled. Age or disability is bound to get you at some point." Few are good at assessing risk, primarily because people assume that circumstances will always be the same. And dependency in old age is a very difficult risk to assess since it depends on longevity, mental and physical well-being, assets, and, most importantly, the absence of an alternative to a nursing home. It's that last one, the absence of an alternative to a nursing home, that raises a very difficult policy question: is it the government's primary responsibility to provide long-term care or is it the family's? And that's a question that many would prefer not to ask.

- rayward

October 11, 2012 at 9:14am

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Not to discount anything you have said, rayward, but nursing-home-type care--high-level care, anyway--is something that very few families can ever provide even if they have the willingness and the space. High-level care requires attendance 24/7, a degree of expertise that is beyond the means of many as well as a cast iron stomach. (Have you ever had to clean up an adult's bowel movement? Your own father's? I have. It ain't pretty.) What I'm getting at is that for the plurality of us, if it is not an outright majority, who by reason of stroke, dementia or chronic heart, respiratory or liver failure experience a period of incapacity before we have the final good fortune to die will almost all require professional nursing care whether or not our families are motivated to look after us.

- AaronW

October 11, 2012 at 9:58am

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The question may be asked differently. It's whether private health insurance may be substituted for government supported health care. The Affordable Care Act is a government program that introduces many people to the private health insurance sector. Those referred to in the post are financially unable to purchase any health insurance on their own and support from an employer or the government is necessary.

- Doug12

October 11, 2012 at 10:22am

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Biden should ask about the Atlas Society and use the word "fascist."

- Mikelawyr22

October 11, 2012 at 10:57am

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Yet another opening/issue that BHO whiffed on the other night.

- stanmvp48

October 11, 2012 at 11:09am

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For Republicans, medicaid is not a solution to a problem of healthcare among the needy, it is the problem. I think the question is, "If Romney, as he has said, was wrong about his condmenation of the 47% what will he do if his plan to cut the budget for medicaid leaves the sick stranded?

- Nusholtz

October 11, 2012 at 11:38am

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Thank you for your comment Nusholtz because no one told those goddamn people to grow old and not sock away $3-10M to pay for their medical and long-term care. If they don't have it move in with their children. Isn't that why they didn't abort them? And those people with preexisting conditions are just as irresponsible. The nerve of them to develop conditions before they apply for health insurance. I often wonder why dems refuse to push GOPers on the reductio ad absurdum of their positions. It would give a certain stupid segment of the public (read: Faux news viewers) a wake-up call. Democrats allow the GOP to call for privatizing social security. As if a government safety net can really be turned over to the private (for profit) sector. The fact remains if the government is involved in any way, Social Security cannot be "privatized." Do dems should state that privatize is code for ABOLISH. Which it is.

- tec619

October 11, 2012 at 11:54am

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Thank you for your comment Nusholtz because no one told those goddamn people to grow old and not sock away $3-10M to pay for their medical and long-term care. If they don't have it move in with their children. Isn't that why they didn't abort them? And those people with preexisting conditions are just as irresponsible. The nerve of them to develop conditions before they apply for health insurance. I often wonder why dems refuse to push GOPers on the reductio ad absurdum of their positions. It would give a certain stupid segment of the public (read: Faux news viewers) a wake-up call. Democrats allow the GOP to call for privatizing social security. As if a government safety net can really be turned over to the private (for profit) sector. The fact remains if the government is involved in any way, Social Security cannot be "privatized." Do dems should state that privatize is code for ABOLISH. Which it is.

- tec619

October 11, 2012 at 11:54am

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LongTermCare needs to be separated from Medicaid before any 'reform'. ACA's LTC solution has already been dropped as 'unworkable'. Still waiting for someone to explain why it costs twice as much per person on Medicaid LTC in New York than same care in New Jersey or Connecticut. That will be a shorter wait than the tnr blogpost that explains how ACA uses the broader eligibility and coverage of NY Medicaid to cover millions more of the uninsured. Even New York is forbidden under ACA from reforming Medicaid at the state level. I am sure all the homeowners paying more in real estate taxes than mortgage payments in NY are ecstatic that ACA prohibits any real reform to NY Medicaid. This is one of the big issues this year - the role of the states vs the role of the federal government, with the lightning rods being medical insurance and education.

- K2K

October 11, 2012 at 12:01pm

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Expenses do vary from state to state but that's also true of rents, salaries, taxes, etc. But, kicking federal monies to the states has resulted in situations like we see in Texas, where money meant for school children was transferred instead to Perry's cronies. Anyway, the underlying issue, that of why the 99% can't save millions and avoid pre-existing conditions, ie Take Responsibility For Their Lives, reflects the total absurdity of the Republican position but also its cruelty. It's flat impossible for people to get rich in most cases and illness can strike even babies, and with the new job model, here today gone tomorrow, low wages and few if any benefits, it's even more difficult just to get by. That's what the well-to-do simply don't see - or worse - it's their plan: reduce the workforce to the status of Chinese workers, no unions, no recourse and if you want to eat you'll work for anything at all. Am I wrong? As for the elderly, it's impossible for most of us to care for aging parents past a certain point, especially since we ourselves are fighting age, illness, disability and also have to survive somehow. Without Medicare/Medicaid, we'd have a real nightmare on our hands. Maybe the idea is, take advantage of us until we're simply not cost effective (translation we don't generate sufficient profits anymore) then we just die. That's how animals are treated isn't it? What happens to broken down racehorses? Yet this cruel conservative right wing pretends that human life, including eggs, is sacred.

- Sophia

October 11, 2012 at 1:18pm

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Except of course when the fertilized egg belongs to a married Republican politician's girlfriend.

- ironyroad

October 11, 2012 at 4:29pm

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Here's a question I would like Ryan to answer. "Under Romney's tax plan, on his website, income of interest dividends and capital gains of up to $200,000.00 is in a zero tax bracket. If Mr. Romney's young grandchildren had trusts where they earned $200,000.00 each and paid no tax, does that sound like good tax policy to you [Mr. Ryan]?

- Nusholtz

October 11, 2012 at 5:29pm

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You are right to want Biden and Obama to ask in nationally televised debates, why do Republicans need to recreate the suffering that government has been trying to address through Medicaid for decades? What is wrong with the Missisippi model? What is wrong with ending Medicare (and the Blunt Amendment)? What is wrong with recreating old inequality (as Elizabeth Warren pointed out)? What's wrong with voters not knowing the aims and effects of Republican goals? And with the right's effect on voters' news? (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/10/11/karl-rove-embodies-post-truth-politics-and-jour/190548 ) and Grover Norquist pedgers? How will voters learn that While it's true that swing state voters have been more informed by Obama's campaign, campaigning and debates shouldn't be the only route for evidence-based information to get to voters. You are far more articulate than anything I (or most politicians) can say on matters critical to voters' best interests. Hate to see you reduced to pleading, that a pol bring up your points, in a debate. It reminds me of how marginalized Krugman is, so that many voters don't understand that the GOP is even more wrong than we thought about how to fix our debt and deficits. http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/the-imf-and-the-gop/

- JCAtwood

October 11, 2012 at 5:57pm

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oops, a missing space typo trashed my prior comment with a link, sorry: You are right to want Biden and Obama to ask in nationally televised debates, why do Republicans need to recreate the suffering that government has been trying to address through Medicaid for decades? What is wrong with the Missisippi model? What is wrong with ending Medicare and Obamacare? What's wrong with the Blunt Amendment? What is wrong with recreating old inequalities (as Elizabeth Warren points out)? What's wrong with voters not knowing the aims and effects of Republican goals? Why should only swing state voters be more informed, only because of Obama campaign ads? You are far more articulate than I on the effects upon voters, of Republican aims for safety nets, so I hate to see you reduced to pleading with a pol to bring up an issue important to voters, in a nationally televised debate. Seems to me that voters should know about the effects of the Blunt Amendment ( http://angryblackladychronicles.com/2012/10/11/mitt-romney-supports-the-blunt-amendment-whats-that/ ), how the GOP is more wrong than we thought about how to fix our debt and deficit ( http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/the-imf-and-the-gop/ ), and how lies overwhelm news ( http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/10/11/karl-rove-embodies-post-truth-politics-and-jour/190548 ) Karl Rove's impact on voter education over Media Matters, or you, is a problem that has nothing to do with the importance and accuracy of your analyses.

- JCAtwood

October 11, 2012 at 6:17pm

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