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Barney Frank's Fiscal Plan: Join the Senate, Soak the Near-Rich

It's somehow perfect that Barney Frank's first order of retirement, after 32 years as a member of Congress, was to show up at a community reading of Moby Dick in New Bedford, the erstwhile whaling hub in his former district where the book begins. Frank was given the honor of being the lead reader at the Saturday event, which means that it was he, with his notorious North Jersey garble, who got to utter the famous first line: "Call me Ishmael."

That retirement, however, may be short-lived. The day before the reading, Frank's line was a different one: essentially, "Call me Senator." After initially disavowing any interest in an interim appointment to John Kerry's Senate seat, Frank declared Friday that he is, in fact, eager to serve in that role--and he has told Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick, who will make the decision. Like most things Frank does, this caused a stir: having him in the Senate while, in all likelihood, Scott Brown and Rep. Ed Markey vie for the seat, would almost certainly be more consequential than going with a mere time-server.

When I reached Frank on Friday, he gave the same explanation he had given others for his change of heart: watching the debate over the "fiscal cliff," and seeing that major decisions about spending and taxes had been left to be decided in the next few months had convinced him that he could make a real contribution in a brief interim role in the upper chamber. "March and April will be the most important months in American economic history, and I don't think I'm being immodest to think I could impact it," said.

But Frank went further in our discussion, laying out the exact approach he would advocate. Simply put, he thinks Democrats should push for additional revenue through an increase in the payroll tax for upper-income earners--not just the very rich, but also the near-rich who made out quite well in last week's fiscal cliff deal. With President Obama backing off of his original pledge to raise tax rates on family incomes over $250,000 and shifting the threshold to $450,000, the Democrats left vitally needed revenues on the table. The answer for the next round is clear, says Frank: Get more money out of the exempted swath of income -- from both those whose incomes fall within that window and above it -- via the payroll tax.

"We did not get at taxes between $250,000 and $450,000, which makes it good territory for putting it out for the Social Security payroll tax base…There is a segment of income from people who make between $250,000 and $450,000 who we think could sustain an increase in taxes," he said. "If they had been [hit with an income tax increase] I'd say we don't want to double-hit these guys, but now it's a second cut at the apple for this [income range] in a politically popular way, to protect Social Security rather than taking it out on the old woman in Boston living on $15,000 a year."

Frank is referring to Congressional Republicans' proposal to save some money by limiting the growth in Social Security payments over time by changing the way inflation is calculated. The proposal is opposed by many on the left but is likely to return as a bargaining chip in the next round of debate. Frank's revenue suggestion offers an entirely different way to sustain Social Security, one that has been little-mentioned until now: raising payroll taxes on upper incomes. As it now stands, the payroll tax for Social Security is applied only to the first $110,000 of income, which means that a family making $100,000 pays just about the same in payroll taxes as one making $500,000 or $10 million. It's the most regressive part of the tax code, and its regressiveness became all the more noticeable last week when the tax-cut compromise ended a payroll tax holiday that had cut two percentage points off the rate.

Frank's approach would partly remedy that. It would also provide a way of getting revenue out of the $250,000-$450,000 income range that is easier to argue for than other options. After all, after both sides made a big show of agreeing to set the income tax-hike threshold at $450,000, it would seem a total nonstarter among Republicans for the White House to seek more revenue now by pushing to lower the income-tax-hike threshold after all.

But will Frank have the chance to push for his idea? There were signs over the weekend that he is not necessarily going to sail into the seat now that he's decided he wants it. Why is that? Well, partly because the personal dynamics around a Frank appointment are not uncomplicated. For starters, as the Boston Globe's Glen Johnson reminds us, there has been tension over the years between Frank and Markey, who arrived in Congress the exact same year. Most recently, Markey succeeded at getting the 2010 redistricting drawn to his benefit and to Frank's disadvantage.

Patrick has not tipped his hand beyond saying that he demands that whoever serves as interim not run for the seat. But his former chief of staff, Doug Rubin, raised eyebrows with this tweet on Saturday: “I respect Cong. Frank and what he has accomplished, but there are better options for MA Senate interim appointment." Rubin expanded on this to Glen Johnson: "The theory that we have to send experienced people to Washington to break the gridlock; the experienced people are the ones creating the gridlock...If we get beyond the traditional names, there are a lot of smart, talented individuals from Massachusetts who could bring some fresh ideas and energy to Washington, and that’s what we sorely need.”

Adding intrigue to Rubin's comments is that he most recently worked for Elizabeth Warren's successful campaign to unseat Brown for the state's other Senate seat. Rubin says his comments reflect only his own thinking, not Warren's or Patrick's, but one cannot help but wonder what his shot at Frank would mean for the Frank-Warren dynamic, should they serve alongside each other for a few crucial months. The pair has a productive history together: Frank helped author the 2010 financial reform law, Dodd-Frank, that created the Consumer Finance Protection Agency that was Warren's brainchild and which she proceeded to set up before leaving to run for the Senate. "I worked very closely with her," Frank told me.

Making matters even more interesting is the fact that, in crafting the law, Frank also had a quite productive partnership with Scott Brown--to the point of causing grumbles among some Massachusetts Democrats. Senate Democrats identified Brown as a possible supporter of the legislation and asked Frank to make the overture to his fellow Bay Stater, whose state Senate district had overlapped with Frank's House one. Frank assured Brown that the legislation would protect large Massachusetts financial institutions such as Mass Mutual and State Street that had not been at the heart of the Wall Street collapse, going so far as to break off a gym session to assuage Brown. They eventually butted heads over Brown's successful opposition to a new tax on banks to help pay for future bailouts, but a working relationship had been established.

That did not stop Frank from lining up strongly with Warren in her race last year, and sharply criticizing Brown for ridiculing Warren's claims to Native American heritage. But Frank still speaks of Brown as a breed apart from his fellow Republicans. "He's got some appeal, personally -- he's not a right-winger," Frank said to me. That said, Frank added, he'll be rooting for Brown's opponent, whether it's Markey or anyone else, because Brown "is a member of a party that is still hostile to the president...As long as the Republican Party is still in the grips of the right wing, you're an enabler of this."

Frank is confident that Markey or another Democrat can beat Brown. "It's an easy member to make to the people of Massachusetts: you voted overwhelmingly for the president. Do you want to now vote for someone whose victory would be an embarrassment to [Obama]?"

But other Democrats in Massachusetts are more cautious about predicting victory. They note that Brown has retained a high favorability rating, despite the loss to Warren, and that turnout in a June special election will in all likelihood be much closer to that of the January special election Brown won in 2010 than this past November's general election. "Brown emerged [from his loss against Warren] very nicely," said Lawrence DiCara, a former president of the Boston City Council. "But for the failed biology students in Indiana and Missouri [Richard Mourdock and Todd Akin, whose odd declarations about rape were not helpful to Brown in Massachusetts] he may have won." While Brown's opponent will have even more evidence to point to of his party's obstinacy, DiCara added, he or she won't be able to make the case that Warren did that a Brown victory could decide Senate control, since Democrats now hold a five-seat edge. And Andrea Nuciforo, Jr., a former state senator who lost a run for Congress last fall, noted another difference: the Democrat will not "be running against the international Elizabeth Warren juggernaut."

What's for sure is that the race will be far more compelling if Frank's warming the sought-after seat while pushing a major tax overhaul. "Barney wears it on his sleeve," said Nuciforo. "I'm not sure how he could bite his lip on something as important as a race for the U.S. Senate."

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I prefer Congressman Markey for the Senate but Frank woulld be a strong second choice.

- arnon1

January 7, 2013 at 12:39am

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I prefer Congressman Markey for the Senate but Frank woulld be a strong second choice.

- arnon1

January 7, 2013 at 12:39am

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There we go I'll vote twice for either of them.

- arnon1

January 7, 2013 at 12:40am

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Talk about somekind of cosmic convergence, about an hour ago before I even read this article I proposed precisely what Barney is proposing, raise that cap to $400,000 AFTER Obama proposed getting rid of any cap whatsover. As to who gets appointed, it is not my state so I really don't feel I have a say and I am sure whoever it will be will be reliably liberal. If it is Barney then good.

- blackton

January 7, 2013 at 1:34am

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I suppose this was to be expected, another whopping increase in the regressive payroll tax, since that was my new year's prediction, the fiscal cliff deal being grossly inadequate to the task of matching revenues and expenses. But I didn't expect it to come from Frank, or any Democrat, and I didn't expect it to come so soon. It's an acknowledgment by Frank that the government will never repay the sums borrowed from the social security trust fund (now at $2.7 trillion), certainly not with income tax receipts (as Senator McConnell gets his way), and almost certainly by additional government borrowing, simply shifting from one creditor to another with no discernible difference, more like shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. And it's an acknowledgment that a tax is a tax, whether a progressive income tax or a regressive payroll tax, money being fungible. But make no mistake: the payroll (flat) tax is regressive, only slightly less so by taxing the "winners" earning $250,000 to $450,000. Spend time, as I do, with professionals and other small business owners earning under $450,000, and it's obvious they are not rich, and most definitely they are not secure, as their incomes fluctuate like the temperature. But they are the engine for job creation, in large part because they (and our economy) have no good alternatives, and that role will not be helped by an enormous tax increase. Indeed, the combination of a 15% payroll tax and a (roughly) 40% income tax means they will pay a marginal tax rate of a whopping 55%! So much for job creation. Since there is no real distinction between the payroll tax and the income tax, what's needed is the integration of the two, with progressive rates and many tax brackets. Frank's proposal merely amplifies the coming class warfare, a coming class warfare that is predicted (correctly in my view) by Donald Bartlett and James Steele in their recent book on inequality. Maybe that's Frank's goal, as he ignites the class warfare before departing Washington and a better life for himself in New England.

- rayward

January 7, 2013 at 7:35am

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Now that GEICO has pigs flying in their tv commercials, can't use that phrase (when pigs fly) to describe the idea of Senator Barney Frank, or the idea that anyone can push through expansion of the FICA tax by April 2013. How naive can he be to think he could have any impact on economic history when he is about as welcome in the Senate as Chuck Hagel is today? In fact, the timing of Frank's sudden offer to serve temporarily probably has more to do with Frank wanting to vote against Hagel as SecDef, which is not exactly what Obama wants from any Dem Senator.

- K2K

January 7, 2013 at 9:00am

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oh for crying out loud ray, EVERY rich person would pay that payroll tax on income up to $400,000, what difference does it make if it comes from payroll or income taxes? And these are the people whom Obama spared in his raising his income taxes, but I will tell you what then we can lower the rates while raising the cap (remember they are not paying the 39% rate but the same old Bush rates on income) so raise the cap and lower the rates to 12% which would dramatically lower its regressivity by 20%

- blackton

January 7, 2013 at 9:09am

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Chuck Schumer, call your office. This is a truly rotten idea - sure to lose the Democrats the Senate if it comes anywhere near to happening. I love Barney Frank, but he's been in Boston-DC-NYC too long, Who needs the Tea Party when Barney Frank speaks their most feverish rantings openly for them? Stop pestering these families - who will not fix the deficit by anyone's imagination and who are watching the Democrats closely right now to see if they will try exactly this stunt. This is not courageous, its silly. You want honestly courageous? Cut money where the budget really is bloated and identical to flushing money down a toilet: the drug "war" is universally unpopular and wastes billions on nothing, tax breaks for oil companies - ditto. Why the eff is one of my all time heroes making me agree with Mitch McConnell? The tax rate talk IS over. Why the Democrats would touch this with a ten foot pole is beyond me.

- WandreyCer

January 7, 2013 at 10:33am

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K2K has nailed why the selection of Barney Frank, with all his virtues, far from supporting the President, would do the opposite. Frank has already announced his intention to vote against confirming Chuck Hagel as Secretary of Defense. This would provide cover for other Democrats who might be considering doing likewise. Since the non-confirmation of a Cabinet appointment would be a devastating defeat for the President, putting Frank in the Senate would be a very dubious gift from Governor Patrick, who is known to be a strong Obama supporter. Otherwise I like and admire Frank, but in this case, putting a vocal anti-Hagel vote in the Senate would run the risk of weakening the President. I trust Governor Patrick is smart enough to avoid this mistake.

- JackR

January 7, 2013 at 11:34am

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All of this stuff about Scott Brown just muddies the waters. Think about the fact that Republicans are determined to get their entitlement reform checked off. So this is brilliant. A person or couple making 250 to 400 k per year is finished with paying their fica by April or May. Let them pay it until June or July, or all year if necessary. Big deal. This is not a job killer, nor is it regressive. It is progressive. The little old lady in Boston does not get her check reduced but these people pay a little more for x number of months. It's a good idea, the one we all think of when we think we might have to give a little to "save Social Security" and Barney Frank is qualified to work on this.

- snewman

January 7, 2013 at 11:51am

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In the coming weeks I fully expect polls of working Americans reflecting betrayal by Obama for handing them tax increases (as reflected in lower take home pay due to the expiration of the payroll tax holiday) when he promised only the wealthy would incur tax increases. So why not send the sanctimonious Frank to the Senate to offer an additional 15% flat tax for working Americans earning $250,000 to $400,000, this after increasing the tax for the wealthiest Americans by only a few percentage points. Frank doesn't wish to ride off quietly into the sunset; he wants to blow the place up on his way out the door while the Democrats are in the building.

- rayward

January 7, 2013 at 1:09pm

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It's up to the voters of the State of Massachusetts to decide who gets Kerry's seat and I doubt they will take the fine political points expressed by non voters into consideration. If it comes to a vote I would vote for either Frank or Markey. I also wouldn't mind if Deval Patrick out governor decides to appoints someone. I am sure that the governor will take the political repercussions into consideration when he decides whether to appoint someone to Kerry's seat or not. If there is a special election held and Frank or Markey will be the candidate Scott Brown will learn what's like to run against seasoned politicians like Frank or Markey.

- arnon1

January 7, 2013 at 1:11pm

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wandrey, this is the Democrat bid to Republicans when they propose to slash grannies meager benefits. Or would you rather slash old people's benefits and make the tax even more regressive to protect some Dentists and Lawyers in the burbs? And there is no question the cap has to be raised, the question is how much? Raise it and index it to inflation and yes, if there is enough revenue from the deal lower the rate 3 or 4% and split that between corporations and people so that millions of middle class people can get a tax cut and corporations can absord the higher limit. Your concern for those making well in excess of $100,000 is touching but if you lower the rate and broaden the stream only those at the top end will feel the pinch.

- blackton

January 7, 2013 at 1:31pm

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"K2K has nailed why the selection of Barney Frank, with all his virtues, far from supporting the President, would do the opposite. Frank has already announced his intention to vote against confirming Chuck Hagel as Secretary of Defense." I don't care if Hagel who has few virtues is confirmed or not. I could see though why a gay politician like Frank would vote against a man, who disparages gays, as Secretary of Defense. Too bad the uber-progressive Jack R. thinks this is a trivial matter.

- arnon1

January 7, 2013 at 1:44pm

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Blackton, first of all, I reject the premise of this debate and your framing of it, as if the only choice for raising revenue is cutting benefits for grannie or raising taxes on upper middle class families. That shtick is a false reality created by Republicans and bought in to by cowardly Democrats that I will not submit to. It's a made up fantasy land. And BTW, millions of middle class people have already have gotten a tax cut, which I totally support, they more than deserve it. The fact that Democrats even bought in to this false is what makes me fed up with politics - that and having my motives questioned when I'm pointing out what seems blazingly obvious to me, that this would feed right in to the worst stereotypes of Democrats and cost us the Senate. Do you think that would "help grannie" as you so charmingly put it? Probably not. Do you think mocking people as greedy dentists in the burbs is a winning strategy? Why should they pay more taxes so oil companies can get more tax breaks and the money-hemoroughing useless "drug war" can continue on zombie-like, unanalyzed, sucking trillions down a rat hole with no hope of results? With no debate at all? Why are we even discussing tax rates anymore? I'm sorry but I find it ridiculous. So no, I don't agree that there's "no question" that the cap needs to be raised.

- WandreyCer

January 7, 2013 at 2:49pm

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Here's roughly how I feel - another one of Dionne's fantasy world editorials yes, as if no tea party/Fox News idiocy exists in this country making everyone stupid, including Democrats. But I like how he bemoans the "deficit reduction industry" and how empty it really is. What I'm saying is that this whole "debate" is one big LIE. The deficit could be fixed easily if that was really the goal. It never has been. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ej-dionne-jr-the-real-deficit-argument/2013/01/06/7e07b314-5830-11e2-9fa9-5fbdc9530eb9_story.html?hpid=z3

- WandreyCer

January 7, 2013 at 3:18pm

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The deficit is a real problem and it's naive to think that there an easy and painless way of solving it. This is why I hope that that it will be the Democratic Party dealing with it and not the Republicans. As usual Wandrey Cer tries to find someone to blame and all "we have to do is destroy them." "Problem solved." Last time Wandrey posted here she thought that "the occupy" movement was going to sweep all opposition away and solve all our fiscal problem. She thought of them as a "youth movement that would triumph." They did didn't they? Ah, the deluded "good folk" will be our destruction.

- arnon1

January 7, 2013 at 3:35pm

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arnon, what in the hell are you talking about? I do not think that "all we have to do is destroy" anything. You're free to mischaracterize my position, but it might be nice if you made the first bit of sense in doing so. Blame someone? For what? And I never thought anything of the sort about the Occupy movement. I don't mind being a deluded good folk, whatever that is - it doesn't sound so bad. But I thought I was the bad guy in this one for supposedly standing up for greedy suburban dentists. What exactly do you disagree with? Frankly, you're delusional. I'll try again. The deficit is a problem, but it should not be the priority. The only time Americans focus on it is when Democrats are in office and Republicans suddenly need a bogeyman. You're welcome to fall for this malarky, I don't. But since my party seems to have bought in to the framing of this by Republicans, I think we should consider providing real leadership and address the things that really do waste trillions instead of relying solely on hackneyed ideas like tax raises for "near" rich people as some sort of panacea. I don't mind paying more taxes, but I do not think this should be the sole strategy for fixing the problem and its certainly a weak idea for maintaining the majority in the Senate. Would you like to try making sense in responding this time? Like say, with some substance in rebuttal to my stated positions? Or would that tax your mind too much? Or is making up bizarre non-sequiters and name calling all your capable of?

- WandreyCer

January 7, 2013 at 3:57pm

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This is for "progressives" like Jack H: "In fact, one of the more distressing features of the nomination is not Hagel himself, but some of the supporters he’s been accruing, people who believe that Hagel shares their loathing of a strong American relationship with Israel. These include people who do express animus toward Israel and toward the American Jews who support Israel." http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-07/does-chuck-hagel-really-have-a-jewish-problem-.html If the shoe fits, Jack H....

- arnon1

January 7, 2013 at 3:58pm

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Frank has already walked back his stated intentions to vote no on Hagel and said he would give him a full hearing. Wandrey, I wish what you said were true but you know Republicans will come at medicare and social security with an axe in order to get their 1 dollar in revenue for every 1 dollar the debt limit is increased. Now they say it has to be all cuts, but I see no reason why we can't do precisely what Romney proposed, in this case increasing the revenue stream and lowering the rates. Why are you against that? And your rejecting Republican insanity is all well and good but it doesn't get them to raise the debt limit. We need counteroffers using their own language.

- blackton

January 7, 2013 at 4:07pm

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blackton "Frank has already walked back his stated intentions to vote no on Hagel and said he would give him a full hearing." And so he should. To say that one would vote for a candidate before a hearing about his qualification was held is as egregious as to say that one would vote against the candidate.

- arnon1

January 7, 2013 at 4:12pm

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Blackton, I see where you're coming from. I guess I'm going to have to go along with this urgent "need for revenue" thing whether I like it or not (what we need much more is investment, but that's over Wandrey). How is it that we always end up needing counteroffers in their own language anyway? I'm just against traps we get caught up in set by Republicans that really don't address the things that should be addressed and cause more harm than good. We should not be cutting one dime to poor people, yet we will - while not touching capital gains and hand outs to oil companies. Why? Look, I'm not philosophically opposed to rates on that 250k demographic, I 'm just sick of losing and I really do worry about that with the Senate. I wish it wasn't that way, but it is. I'm not totally hopeless, I DO get that raising the cap would at least back us out of a big chunk of Bush's disastrous tax cuts, I DO get that right now they are permanent if we don't raise it and that's a big win for the right. I just hate that we're focusing on the deficit right now at all, something given to us by Bush Co. in the first place, and not on jobs and investment - and that it has to focus solely on tax rates. There's no accountability anywhere in this scenario. It's just the same hackneyed loop forever. And as far as my howling in to the wind with my pet peeves, well the Band Plays On. The drug war will never die and we'll be kissing the ass of the oil barons into the next millennium - on my dime. Thanks to the Republicans. (Also, I don't remember what Romney said about increasing revenue, I couldn't take anything he said seriously).

- WandreyCer

January 7, 2013 at 4:31pm

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Black - did you know that Germany is on track to be fueled entirely on renewable energy? The trillions we waste in this country on oil company handouts honestly makes me sick. No, I guess I don't want to pay any more taxes that will go to it. http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/how_germany_is_getting_to_100_percent_renewable_energy_20121115

- WandreyCer

January 7, 2013 at 4:38pm

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This looks pragmatic, which is to say a Good Idea. Go Barney!

- Robert Powell

January 7, 2013 at 5:13pm

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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/barney-frank-now-backs-chuck-hagel-85841.html yeah, fastest flip-flop of 2013 :) still does not mean that Barney Frank can change economic history in two months - how many years did he have in the House? and all we got was a housing meltdown, and the Dodd-Frank regulatory morass. Does not Sen. Kerry have a chief of staff who could be appointed placeholder? Worked well in Delaware when Biden's CoS Kaufman was appointed. And, that led to Chris Coons winning the seat. Very smart guy.

- K2K

January 7, 2013 at 5:59pm

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for the record, I am totally supportive of increasing more FICA revenue, although maybe not the employer match. and, the reason the USA is in a debt/defict crisis is because of those irresponsible Bush43 tax cuts that have now mostly become permanent. Quite a victory for the "starve the beast" Lobby. And, the USA uber-rich mega-mmansions are not even nice enough to become tourist destinations - unlike what happened in post-WW1-2 Britain. Yes, am still in Downton Abbey mode :) But, still not a fan of Barney Frank, may he retire in silence.

- K2K

January 7, 2013 at 6:08pm

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"But, still not a fan of Barney Frank, may he retire in silence." KKK is at it again. What business is it of yours who the State of Massachusetts not, a State where you vote, appoints or elects Senator? We know you are a fan of the Tea Party, so why don't you move to a State where they are in power and you won't have to worry over liberal tax policies. You are just another Tea Party useful idiot and hypocrite.

- arnon1

January 7, 2013 at 6:32pm

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"Sen. Warren would welcome Barney Frank as senator" http://www.usatoday.com/story/onpolitics/2013/01/07/barney-frank-senate-warren-hagel/1814885/

- arnon1

January 7, 2013 at 7:38pm

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"Barney Frank disagrees with gubernatorial aide’s criticism of him as potential interim senator" "The appointee would serve until a permanent replacement is picked in a special election that must be held within 145 days to 160 days of any resignation." http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2013/01/07/barney-frank-disagrees-with-gubernatorial-aide-criticism-him-potential-interim-senator/N5NxbjKoIfalzXRA9FNb3H/story.html

- arnon1

January 7, 2013 at 7:41pm

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Elizabeth Warren was a Republican until 1995.

- K2K

January 7, 2013 at 9:55pm

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MacGillis has a serious error which I don't see has been corrected in an otherwise good piece of journalism. Markey replaced MacDonald and was elected in 1976. Frank replaced Drinan and was elected in 1980. That means they didn't get to the US House at the same time. I admire both as effective, skilled and devoted champions of people who need help. Dogged defenders of social security have left progressives down by their failure to emphasize what Frank would: lift the social security cap. It's disgraceful that it currently stops at 110k and will go up only to 113k. David Cohen Washington, DC

- mogen

January 7, 2013 at 10:28pm

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"Elizabeth Warren was a Republican until 1995." But she got wise didn't she? She comes from a Republican State and can compare the way they rule to the way Democrats rule. You went the other way. You do need to move to Oklahoma to see the difference.

- arnon1

January 7, 2013 at 10:59pm

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