THE PLANK NOVEMBER 13, 2007
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Reading the comments to a blog post Jonathan Martin wrote about anti-Mormon remarks made by John McCain's 95-year-old mother, I was again struck by how different the Democratic and Republican primary races have been. On the Dem side, I think most voters have largely positive views of the three major candidates. (Sure, there's some Hillary hatred, but I think even most who dislike her feel a grudging respect for her.) On the GOP side, by contrast, it often feels as though people are more passionate about the candidates they oppose than the ones they support. Obviously blog commenters are far from a representative sample of voters--especially with regard to their political ferocity--but I nonetheless found the exchange on Maertin's blog telling:
Yep, McCains a biggot. He is the product of his loud mouth mother. Now we know where he got his loud mouth from ....
you romney freaks saying the author of this blog is anti-mitt, are you
people clueless? most of the republican candidates hate mitt romney;
most republicans hate him, in fact. no one respects a man who one
election is running to the left of ted kennedy and ten years later
talks about how evil it is for gays to be parents. romney's a joke....As a Latter-day Saint, I am not surprised to see that John McCain's
mother is bigoted against us; McCain's conduct has made it clear that
he is prejudiced against Mormons, but enough of us live in Arizona that
he is forced to pretend he likes us, despite so many instances of
bigotry seeping through the cracks....mccain and i disagree on immigration, but at least he has real
positions. what does romney have? the fact that hes only had one wife?
yeah, i guess for mormons that is a big feat huh?...were you aware that Sen. McCain said he did not favor overturning Roe v
Wade? When he changed his mind, he was much older than Romney is. If
there is so much to dislike, what appealed to you in the first place?
*cough liar cough*...Personally I tend to think that this line was hardly a senile lady
popping off. The 3rd party stab and magnanimous recovery by the
candidate is a very old trick.
There's been a lot of discussion (and rightly so) about whether the social conservative vote will be depressed if Giuliani is the nominee. But I can't help but wonder whether there might be smaller variation of this phenomenon regardless of who gets the nomination. There are a lot of Republicans who actively loathe both Romney and McCain, and while most of them will presumably hold their noses and pull the GOP lever anyway, some fraction of them may just stay home.
One other observation: The old Romney line about being the only frontrunner to have had only one wife was a clever way to dispense with the whole polygamy question and call oblique attention to his rivals' checkered matrimonial records. But it's remarkable how many of the Romney boosters commenting on Martin's blog view his family life as central to his appeal:
The ONLY top-tier candidate for the Republican nomination to have ONLY ONE WIFE and stay FAITHFUL to her is MITT ROMNEY....
Mitt has taken a genuine position in his life: he is married one time
and been faithful to his wife and has five children that are also
faithful to their wives. That is almost unheard of in this country.If a successful family isn't an accomplishment, then why is the divorce
rate over 50%... If having a successful family isn't
an accomplishment, then why is Mitt the only front-runner to accomplish
such a feat?
It may just be me, but non-divorce as a presidential qualification seems to be setting the bar pretty low, even for the GOP.
--Christopher OrrĀ
6 comments
Their beloved Reagan was divorced and remarried so I think McCain (at just 2 wives) is probably ok even though wife #2 is a drug addict. Unlike Ronnie's second wife, John's just said "yes" to drugs.
Giuliani is, um, a special case, a true creep. Thompson gets creepy points for the too-young and too-hot-for-him quality of his second (or third?) wife.
As far as I know, Huckabee is just as monogamously married as Romney.
I think it's gonna be Romney or Huckabee anyway, so this issue will be moot.
- stgla
November 13, 2007 at 11:30am
Dunno about that one, Chris. Much more than just "some" Hillary-hatred within the Dems' ranks. It's palliated only when and where, as with Kos and the once and future Ambassador Joe Wilson most notoriously, the Hill-hater smells an entree to power post-Jan 2008. The only reason you don't see the same arse-kissing on the GOP side is that it's not clear yet which GOPer will own the pinata.
- teplukhin2you
November 13, 2007 at 12:34pm
I think the emphasis on family life with Romney might be partly defensive; as you observe, it defuses the polygamy thing, and hence helps to neutralize the whole "Mormons are weird" vibe. Look at his upstanding personal life! How can he be weird? That sort of thing.
- Ivanova
November 13, 2007 at 12:40pm
Sexual ethics is at the core of the religious right-wing's political mission. Abortion and gay marriage are at the extreme edges of this piece of cloth -- and marital fidelity is at the center.
So it seems to this atheist anyway...
Neil
- purcellneil
November 13, 2007 at 12:51pm
I think a lot of the rhetoric is overblown. Once the Republicans settle on a candidate they will rally around him. Look at what GWB did to McCain in South Carolina and McCain still managed to campaign for him.
- bsdespain
November 13, 2007 at 1:13pm
"Sure, there's some Hillary hatred, but I think even most who dislike her feel a grudging respect for her." Why would I respect someone I think is going to drive the Democratic party over a cliff? She is, at best, a failed candidate, at worst a failure as a Presidency. If she loses the nomination, I will respect her as a Senator, or even a VP, if she wins the nomination and loses the Presidency, I will (and 99%) of the Democrats despise her forever. If she wins the Presidency, in 4 years the whole country will despise her as being utterly ineffectual. I simply can't imagine a Presidency of hers that can be successful, there is too much stacked up against the next one (Iraq, a looming recession, higher interest rates, a devalued dollar, higher inflation, etc.). Every mistake will be magnified and soley her fault, every success attributed (in some part) to Bill's counsel.
- blackton
November 13, 2007 at 1:56pm