THE PLANK JUNE 18, 2008
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So many polls, so little time. This is everything that's been released today, including the results from our morning edition:
Let's begin in Ohio, where Rasmussen's
latest data contradicts the notion that Barack Obama is surging in the
state. He still trails John McCain by one point in their polling;
McCain had also led by one point in their May survey. There are several
factors to consider here. Firstly, this poll postdates the Quinnipiac
poll by a few days. I'm not yet convinced that Obama's bounce is
receding, in part because there haven't really been any intervening
news events to give some momentum back to John McCain, but that's
always something to keep in mind. Secondly, some of the pollsters (like
SurveyUSA and PPP) that had shown Obama leading in Ohio by fairly large
margins tend to have a more fluid/less grounded conception of party
identification than does Rasmussen. In Ohio, they're finding a huge
shift in party identification, with as much as 50 percent of the state
identifying as Democrat, and running with those numbers as is. Since
SurveyUSA and PPP identify a lot more Democrats in their sample, and
since much of Obama's bounce appears to be in the form of bringing
Democrats back home to their party, it is not surprising if they are
showing more movement toward him.Unfortunately, there are no definitive answers about how one should
measure party idenitifaction, and we won't really know who got it right
until November. At a gut-feel level, it's hard not to imagine Ohio
being somewhat close. At the same time, Obama's problems in the state
had stemmed from his poor performance in Southern Ohio, which is part
of Appalachia. And this is the region in which his bounce appears to be
most profound: his polling has improved by 12 points in Kentucky and 15
in Arkansas, and he took some huge steps forward in Southern Ohio in
Quinnipiac's regional breakdown.Other Rasmussen polling does show a bounce for Obama. In Maine, he's ahead by 22 (up from 13 a month ago), and in Alaska,
he trails McCain by just 4 points (down from 9 a month ago). There is
certainly some novelty value in the notion of a Democrat competing in
Alaska. But it's a state that the Obama campaign ought to be taking
reasonably seriously: Alaska is the the youngest state in the country
in a year where we have the largest-ever age gap between the two
nominees. Indeed, it's probably time for Obama to visit Alaska. I don't
have any numbers on this, but I would guess that candidate visits make
more difference in smaller states, and particularly those that are out
of the way geographically. If Obama visits Alaska, it will create a ton
of earned media, and McCain will probably have to follow him to defend
the state.The notorious A.R.G.
(American Research Group) is out with their first general election
polling of the year; they have Obama leading by 5 points in Florida,
and 12 in New Hampshire. You probably know that I don't have the
highest opinion of ARG, but in their defense, their general election
polling has tended to be pretty decent -- it's their primary polling
that has been a mess. I do not, incidentally, find the New Hampshire result
implausible, precisely because New Hampshire has some history of
overreacting to current trends. With few New Hampshirites fitting into
hard-and-fast demographic categories, and many of them identifying as
independents, there is probably a higher fraction of swing voters there
than any other state in the country. So as the country swings, New
Hampshire swings twice over.Finally, two results that tend to confirm our current impressions in a couple of states. In Virginia, Public Policy Polling has Obama ahead by 2 -- this is their first poll of the Commonwealth -- and in Wisconsin, SurveyUSA has Obama ahead by 9, up from 6 last month.
--Nate Silver
7 comments
So many days, so much noise.
Is it over yet?
- teplukhin2you
June 18, 2008 at 7:35pm
I would be stunned if Obama actually came close here in Alaska. Bush won by 30 points or so. So either that poll is totally out to lunch, or McCain really is screwed -- if he has to worry about defending Alaska's 3 electoral votes, he's in real trouble nationally. of course, he could wrap them up by picking Sarah Pain as VP!
- JEFF FREY
June 18, 2008 at 9:09pm
I'm actually not so surprised, early (like January) on it was clear that Obama was putting a lot of states in play. The primaries hurt him some, but thats starting to fade as the candidates are actually compared for once. And it seems the bloom is coming off the McCain rose too with seeming continued gaffs and coverage of flip-flops. If you go with the generic matchup (DEM/GOP) then these results seem in line with that. What is still missing is the national polling difference,
- dbhuff
June 18, 2008 at 10:37pm
Nate's posts are rapidly becoming my favorite.
- adamvaught
June 18, 2008 at 11:12pm
Maybe Nate could juxtapose for us the month-by-month polling data from our previous landslide-winner candidates, Dukakis and Kerry.
- teplukhin2you
June 19, 2008 at 7:48am
tep - you are making the point that polls are frequently wrong in their predictions. True enough, but I would expect a little humility, if not compassion, from the political guru who a year ago was so sure that the Presidential nominees would be Clinton and Giuliani.
- JackR
June 19, 2008 at 9:21am
The notorious A.R.G.--sounds like a rap act...
Jack R: zing!
- cspencef
June 19, 2008 at 2:23pm