THE PLANK JULY 29, 2008
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Most of the attention has been focused recently on national polls, but
we do have a couple of state-level results to look at as well. The most
noteworthy is Strategic Vision's new poll in Pennsylvania,
which shows Barack Obama ahead by 9 points. Strategic Vision had polled
Pennsylvania several times in March and April in conjunction with the
Democratic primary, and had shown John McCain with leads ranging from 3
to 10 points. At the time, it was the only poll to show McCain with
that magnitude of advantage, so some of this may be regression to the
mean -- but nevertheless this is a result the Obama campaign will
gladly take. Pennsylvania has been demoted to the 6th most important
state in our Tipping Point rating, behind Ohio, Michigan, Colorado,
Virginia and Florida. There is a reasonable argument to be had that the
McCain campaign should forsake the state, and concentrate its efforts
in Michigan and Ohio.Strategic
Vision also polled Washington; that poll showed Obama ahead by 11,
consistent with other polling in the Evergreen State.And Public Policy Polling
has their monthly number out in North Carolina: John McCain is ahead by
3 points. North Carolina polling has been bounded within a very narrow
range; in fact, all three of the most current polls of the state (PPP,
Rasmussen, Civitas) show the same exact 3-point margin for John McCain.And
what of those national polls? There is, obviously, a lot of noise in
the data. Simultaneously, over the weekend, polls were conducted
showing anything from a 12-point lead for Obama to a 4-point lead for McCain (certain caveats may apply to the latter of these results). The Rasmussen and Gallup
national trackers also render a split verdict: Obama's lead in the
Rasmussen poll is back down to just one point, while he maintains a
relatively strong 6-point advantage in Gallup.Overall, however,
our model thinks the polling situation looks a fair bit better for
Obama than it did 7-10 days ago. It is not clear whether or not Obama
is on any sort of upswing, but he at least seems to have halted the
momentum that McCain had coming out of the July 4 holiday. Whatever the
merits of Obama's overseas trip, it may have taken oxygen from the
"Obama is a flip-flopper" narrative that had dominated the discussion
in late June and early July, and that alone may be worth a point or so
in his polling.
--Nate Silver
4 comments
Thanks again Nate. I'd seen a bunch of poll-focused posts and stories the last couple of days that seemed very contradictory; this one asserted bad news for Obama, that one proof of his rise. These regular comprehensive updates that distill the overall perspective are a blessing.
- jobeek2
July 29, 2008 at 4:30pm
These polls mean very little. The "liberal hour" has become the "liberal feint". Anything less than a commanding lead in the polls by Obama (10%?) will translate into a defeat. It's no secret that many polled will say they will vote for the black candidate ("it's my neighbor that's racist, not me") but don't. Sad, but true.
- raylward
July 29, 2008 at 4:51pm
Getting out of PA would be a really interesting call by the McCain campaign. Yeah, his numbers suck there, but, unlike Bush in the last two elections, he's not competitive at all in the upper midwest (MN, WI, IA) or pacific northwest (WA, OR). So he's betting he can win with the Bush coalition (presumably absent IA and NM, which look real tough for him), particularly 1) hold OH or win MI, and 2) not have ANY other defections (VA, CO, NV, FL, IN, MO, etc.). Keep in mind, MI has consistently been 3-5 points above national average for the Ds every election since 1996, OH seems particularly hard to hold because of the economy and local political factors, and Obama has shown particularly good numbers in a number of Bush-won states (even MT and ND!).
The poker analogy would be to go all in holding three spades after the flop and hoping to pick up a runner-runner flush. I'm not saying it can't happen... but it's a bold move and not favored by the odds.
- prnoonan
July 29, 2008 at 5:47pm
raylward: You're right. There is no reliable historic polling model for this election. In the end, this election is going to be a referendum on race even though few in the media want to have a detailed discussion on this point. The only things that could change the dynamic in Obama's favor are a major McCain gaffe in the debates or off-the-charts turnout for the demographics supporting Obama. Enough of middle America could still pull lever for Obama and pleasantly surprise us but I'm not holding my breath.
- optiskeptic
July 29, 2008 at 5:48pm