THE PLANK MAY 1, 2009
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Mike wrote earlier today of the federal government's decision to drop its scurrilous espionage case against two former AIPAC employees, an abuse of prosecutorial power that ruined the careers of these men and damaged the reputation of America's premier pro-Israel organization. That's all well and good. The question I have is whether the legion of bloggers who recently attacked one of those men, Steve Rosen, over his role in l'affaire Chas Freeman, will acknowledge this news and apologize for their trumping of charges that have now been dropped. Rosen, you may recall, was one of the first people to note Freeman's selection as head of the National Intelligence Council in February. Not long after, and with no prodding from Rosen, other writers (myself included) began to criticize Freeman for what we viewed as his indifference to human rights, coziness with totalitarian regimes from Beijing to Riyadh and--yes--his blinkered outlook on the Arab-Israeli conflict, particularly, his lending credence to the Stephen Walt-John Mearsheimer worldview which places America's relationship with Israel at the center of our foreign policy problems. As soon as the Freeman story blew up into a major internet controversy, a whole host of (mostly left-leaning) bloggers began launching ad hominem attacks on Rosen. They chose not to contend with the entirely legitimate criticisms Rosen was making of Freeman's views and associations, but instead went after Rosen personally, arguing that because he had been indicted for espionage, nothing he said could be taken seriously. And by dint of our agreeing with Rosen, all of us who had expressed serious concern over the Freeman appointment were thus tarred as being willing dupes of "The Lobby." Joining in this crusade were: M.J. Rosenberg: Director of Policy Analysis for the Israel Policy Forum: "I just can't get over the idea that a guy on trial for espionage has the temerity to take on a lifelong public servant for not being loyal to the country that he, Steve Rosen, is accused by the United States of being too loyal to."
Max Blumenthal: Author of an entire article about Rosen entitled, "Accused AIPAC Spy Leads Attack on Chas Freeman."
Andrew Sullivan: "Max Blumenthal profiles the leader of the anti-Freeman brigade: Steve Rosen, facing trial this spring for allegedly passing US national security secrets to reporters. No, I didn't make that up."
Robert Dreyfuss: The former Middle East Editor of Lyndon LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review who now covers national security for both The American Prospect and The Nation wrote of Rosen as "the former official of the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee who's been indicted for pro-Israeli espionage in a long-running AIPAC scandal."Matthew Yglesias: "Meanwhile, that the anti-Freeman charge would be led by Rosen, who’s a 'former AIPAC official' because he was charged with espionage crimes, is slightly bizarre."Glenn Greenwald: The self-styled defender of American liberties observed that, "the man leading the anti-Freeman assault was Steve Rosen, the long-time AIPAC official currently on trial for violations of the Espionage Act in connection with the transmission of classified U.S. information intended for Israel." (Apparently Greenwald's presumption of innocence only applies to terrorists intent on murdering untold numbers of American citizens).
And, of course, where would any crackpot anti-Israel conspiracy theory be without the musings of Stephen Walt, who compared Freeman's critics to Joseph McCarthy and referred to Rosen specifically as "the same guy who is now on trial for passing classified U.S. government information to Israel."These are just a handful of the many, many Freeman defenders who wielded the Rosen indictment as a cudgel with which to smear all of Freeman's critics, and who held up Rosen's opposition to Freeman as if his involvement alone relieved them from the burden of addressing the merits of the case.
To his credit, Spencer Ackerman, who also inveighed against Rosen during the Freeman controversy, writes today that the government's case against Rosen "amounted to the criminalization of extremely routine practices in Washington: acquiring and distributing information that’s overclassified" and went onto say:
During the Chas Freeman affair, when Steve Rosen was leading the charge against Freeman’s appointment to be chairman of the National Intelligence Council for alleged hostility to Israel, alleged disinterest in human rights, and insinuated nefarious loyalties to China and Saudi Arabia, I remarked that Rosen shouldn’t have gone after another pro-Israel lobbyist with whom he disagreed over Freeman while being wrapped up in the case. I shouldn’t have said that Rosen was under indictment for spying for Israel, since that was a misstatement of the case. The point that I should have made is that someone who was railroaded in this case, with its intimations of dual loyalty, should be circumspect about flinging such charges against other people. Maybe we can all take a deep breath here--doubtful, but maybe--and reflect that it’s good for everyone who desires openness in government that the flimsy charges against Weissman and Rosen are on their way out, regardless of the politics of the accused.
This is a bit tendentious (Ackerman's admission that Rosen was "railroaded" ought to have absolved him of being "circumspect" about raising perfectly legitimate questions about Freeman's being on the payroll of the Saudi Arabian and Chinese governments), but it's far preferable to the radio silence in other corners of the liberal blogosphere.
--James Kirchick
63 comments
I must be slipping. I didn't recognize this was a Kirchick post until I got to his comments about Glenn Greenwald.
- drdannyu
May 1, 2009 at 2:37pm
"Will Steve Rosen's Attackers Apologize? "
I doubt it, they will probably attack you instead.
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 2:40pm
Who? What? Why is this post here? Doesn't this country have enough real problems to worry about?
- FWright
May 1, 2009 at 3:00pm
Man, you're slipping Doc. I caught it on scurrilous.
- Crock1701
May 1, 2009 at 3:01pm
It was the title for me. When you have a title on The Plank that directly channels Martin Peretz, who else could it be?
- SMacEachern2
May 1, 2009 at 3:12pm
I 'm missing the problem with the main post. other than the needless knock on whom Greenwald bestows the preumpstion of innocence I thought this was a well reasoned post making a supported and legitimate point.
So what am I missing?
- basman
May 1, 2009 at 3:18pm
People are going to hold a grudge against Kirchick no matter how well-spoken and on-target he may be. Good post, Jamie. Sorry about the constitutional objectionists here.
- dylanposer
May 1, 2009 at 3:18pm
Why can't guys like Kirchick and dyer just be happy that, once again, the Obama DOJ is cleaning up yet another mess created by the Bush DOJ?
- WoodyBombay
May 1, 2009 at 3:19pm
p.s. As I read it there is nothing in the main post really asking for an apology, regardless of the title of the piece.
- basman
May 1, 2009 at 3:20pm
That Rosen was charged, indicted, and put "on trial" is a stone fact. Since when do reporters, editors and bloggers apologize for reporting those? Usually when people are acquitted or charges are dropped, the fairness expectation is that this turn of event gets loudly reported-- as the AIPAC reversals are the top story in Washington Post, New York Times, all over the place today.
By the way, does the Obama Justice Department get any credit for halting long running prosecutions against wrongly prosecuted **right wingers** like Ted Stevens and the AIPAC guys? I think they should be credited for fixing Bush's messes **even when** they may not be in Obama's immediate political self-interest.
- mcorey.geo
May 1, 2009 at 3:25pm
Mcorey,
It wasn't reporting. It was asserting/accusing before any judgments, or even trials, had been brought. There's a pretty wide river of difference there.
- dylanposer
May 1, 2009 at 3:31pm
p.p.s.s. attacking Kircihik's posts apart from their merits in any particular case because Kirchik has some immutable essence that perforce informs them is ad hominem in its way as the righteous/lefteous dismissing Rosen's arguments because he had been charged with something.
That kind of thing is horseshit straight up.
- basman
May 1, 2009 at 3:32pm
Woody and I typed the exact same thing at the same time!
Basman:
<<
The question I have is whether the legion of bloggers who recently attacked one of those men, Steve Rosen, over his role in l'affaire Chas Freeman, will acknowledge this news and apologize for their trumping of charges that have now been dropped.
>>
Second sentence, first paragraph. Honestly, Mr. Kirchick forgive me for being so literal but is it not former Attorney General Mukasey who should apologize for railroading these guys.
- mcorey.geo
May 1, 2009 at 3:37pm
FWright said: "Who? What? Why is this post here? Doesn't this country have enough real problems to worry about?"
who, what, why are you here, Wright?
Don't we have enough crap to read already?
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 3:40pm
The usual bigoted Kirchik haters are posting here today.
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 3:41pm
Even SMacEachern2 who I thought died and went to The Nation to post.
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 3:43pm
"Andrew Sullivan: "Max Blumenthal profiles the leader of the anti-Freeman brigade: Steve Rosen, facing trial this spring for allegedly passing US national security secrets to reporters. No, I didn't make that up.""
This is typical Sullivan antisemitic claptrap full of faux indignation.
Like Hitchens his biggest bete noir are Jews. Baiting Jews has become his specialty.
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 3:49pm
I think that tnr could have found a more credible voice to complain about "cudgels" and "smears" and "attacks" than someone whose MO is brilliantly illuminated by a generous and enthusiastic application of similar cudgels, smears, and attacks against the straw men torment his fevered partisanship.
Listen, it is unfair to label folks with unproven accusations but let's get real: using indictments and accusations are rife in politics and they are used liberally by all sides of the spectrum. Rosen was indicted, or suspected of this charge and his detractors were going to make political hay of that fact.
Should they apologize now that the charges have been dropped? Sure. Will they? Probably not. Would Kirchick ever apologize for his liberal use of similar tactics? Only if Foer put a gun against his head and made him go on record to bleat out an apology on this blog. Would Kirchick have apologized for his smears, cudgels, and attacks against Eric Alterman if not for Foer? Not hardly.
So, please, stop with the crocodile tears.
- thejauntyboulevardier
May 1, 2009 at 3:49pm
jackie d.,
Are you, or are you not, happy that the Obama DOJ has cleaned up YET ANOTHER mess created by the Bush DOJ?
- WoodyBombay
May 1, 2009 at 3:49pm
My problem with the main post is not the content per se, but the usual sneering and disdainful manner in which the opinions contained therein are expressed (and in particular the ridiculous and ugly things he says about Greenwald). As is often the case, Kirchick buries the merits of his argument in overwrought, arrogant language.
Nice to see you, too, Jackson.
- drdannyu
May 1, 2009 at 3:49pm
jacksondyer: Nah, TNR has the Peretz Circus: The Nation can't really equal the spectacle of an editor-in-chief who is (what was that term?) a 'crazy-ass racist'.
More generally, The Plank is supposed to be a blog by TNR staff, but since Kirchick seems to channel Martin Peretz directly, it's just like having the Great man himself come on board.
One might also note that Kirchick neglects to mention Glenn Greenwald's column today (http://tinyurl.com/cwbcjh) or the one it references (http://tinyurl.com/cy2cjp), both of which decry the prosecution. But I guess that might have somewaht detracted from the column.
- SMacEachern2
May 1, 2009 at 3:59pm
I think one can be extremely suspcious of JK's curiously oblique but often strikingly misdirected prose without being "bigoted."
- ironyroad
May 1, 2009 at 4:01pm
Jackson,
That's it, isn't it? Everyone you disagree with, or who criticizes someone with whom you agree, MUST be a bigot, right? Perhaps, instead of seeing bigots everywhere, you could apply Ockham's Razor here: Kirchick just isn't a very good blogger and that annoys a lot of posters.
- mundye
May 1, 2009 at 4:03pm
"As is often the case, Kirchick buries the merits of his argument in overwrought, arrogant language."
Seconded. And has Kirchick ever posted anything that's not dripping with sarcasm? I don't really like Greenwald, but to say that "Greenwald's presumption of innocence only applies to terrorists intent on murdering untold numbers of American citizens" is just obnoxious. As usual, Kirchick makes all his enemies look better.
- Androscoggin
May 1, 2009 at 4:05pm
ironyroad said: "I think one can be extremely suspcious of JK's curiously oblique but often strikingly misdirected prose without being "bigoted.""
You couldn't tell that from reading this thread.
Example of misdirected prose?
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 4:06pm
I agree that the problem is not that the bloggers cited by Kirchik state accurately that Rosen was indicted. The problem(s) are actually: (1) they accuse Rosen of spying even though that's not what he was indicted for; and (2) as Kirchik points out, they used the pending (and ultimately meritless) case against Rosen as their case for Freeman, rather than deal with the substantive arguments against Freeman.
A far more troubling concern is why this "AIPAC" case had so few critics among the media even though it endangered their freedom so directly.
You'll be hard pressed to find any journalist other than Jeffrey Goldberg who spoke badly about the "AIPAC" leak case before Ackerman joined him today. This is remarkable considering the conduct that was prosecuted is the same as done hundreds of times a day by journalists: receiving and passing along "classified" information.
I would imagine this reticence is because journalists, especially Jewish journalists, don't want to be on the same side as AIPAC.
Pretty funny, if you think about it. Journalists (thankfully) are happy to condemn the injustice of torture even though its recipients were alleged terrorists. But they won't condemn a clearly overreaching justice department because its victim was AIPAC employees.
Ruling the world isn't what it used to be . . .
- bigm
May 1, 2009 at 4:10pm
He does call for apologies and I satnd corrected on that.
But so what if he does?
- basman
May 1, 2009 at 4:14pm
Yglesias: "This was almost certainly the right decision."
yglesias.thinkprogress.org/.../aipac-spy-case-dropped.php
He didn't "apologize" to Rosen because he said Rosen was "charged with espionage" - as Kirchick himself points out - and that is 100 percent true. So.
- WoodyBombay
May 1, 2009 at 4:17pm
Actually, the main problem with Kirchick's post is that it misstates the significance of Steve Rosen's involvement. When the former director of an advocacy organization launches a campaign to block someone who is perceived to be an opponent of that organization, people will reasonably perceive that he is a proxy for that organization. Rosen is the ex-director of AIPAC. He clearly launched the anti-Freeman jihad. So the license plate on the car that ran over Freeman reads "AIPAC."
The Rosen connection casts doubt on claims that Freeman was really done in by his connection to Saudi Arabia or by private comments he made about China. It is common to dismiss the effectiveness or even the existence of a Likudnik lobby in the U.S. But it does exist, and it is more powerful than many would like to admit.
- tomhilliard
May 1, 2009 at 4:24pm
I partially retract my statement above. Several bloggers, including Yglesias and Greenwald, did criticize the Rosen prosecution before today. They didn't do so regularly and vociferously, like Goldberg did or like they did regarding torture, but that's merely a (big) difference in degree and a statement abour priorities.
- bigm
May 1, 2009 at 4:25pm
bigm:
"Pretty funny, if you think about it. Journalists (thankfully) are happy to condemn the injustice of torture even though its recipients were alleged terrorists. But they won't condemn a clearly overreaching justice department because its victim was AIPAC employees."
Exaclty, I find it sad, though, not funny.
Easier to attack people like Kirchik.
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 4:33pm
...He clearly launched the anti-Freeman jihad...
Ah, the abjuration of loaded language, the offering of no clue what tomhilliard's presuppositions are.
- basman
May 1, 2009 at 4:37pm
It's easy to attack Kirchick because he's so snide. The substance of what he's getting to is correct, though. I'd bet almost anything that the NY Times story about Harman from two weeks ago was just a cheap attempt at revenge by frustrated prosecutors.
- rozenson
May 1, 2009 at 4:45pm
Y'all should ask "Journalism" to apologize!
- WoodyBombay
May 1, 2009 at 4:47pm
My problem with Jamie is that he posted this on a Friday afternoon. Come on, Jamie- Fridays around here used to be fun! Now everyone is angry.
Roz, as usual,, is succinct and correct. Jamie isn't generally "wrong", broadly speaking, but he adopts such high-minded, arrogant prose that it turns off people even inclined to agree. The Greenwald thing is a perfect example. "Self-styled"? Well, he is a lawyer. And you, Jamie, are a self-styled liberal-checker, Israel-defender, and expert on South Africa. We're all self-styled. But the prose there denigrates Greenwald, to say nothing of the snide parenthetical. A writer is supposed to persuade, and when using such an undeserved tone of moral self-righteousness and hypocrisy (Jamie is just as cruel toward his targets), one has failed as a writer and as an advocate. And in important things, like this, it is a huge failure.
Dammit, I really didn't want to get involved. Only 45 minutes til beer.
- boneill
May 1, 2009 at 5:13pm
"We're all self-styled."
Are you a self styled Kirchick hater, Neill?
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 5:26pm
I don't think Rosen should have been prosecuted. I felt that even prior to the charges being dropped.
However, that does not mean I feel his actions were morally upstanding. Judging from his work record, Rosen either possesses or at one time did possess a security clearance. Given that, he has a *lifetime obligation* to prevent the disclosure of classified information to unauthorized people.
I'm more sympathetic to Keith Weissman, who (as I understand it) never held a security clearance. But when Rosen accepted his, he agreed to certain obligations. Those obligations continue even after your clearance expires.
Now, in practice, this sort of thing goes on all the time. Sometimes it's even good; when the government oversteps its bounds, people have an ethical obligation to bring that to public attention. That's why I never liked the case; it would set a bad precedent, especially the Weissman part. What if the government started prosecuting journalists who published leaked classified material? I definitely don't want to encourage that.
But this wasn't a case like that. And the fact that charges were dropped doesn't mean I think Rosen is clean.
- ratnerstar
May 1, 2009 at 5:36pm
I didn't read the entire Greenwald link but it doesn't surprise me to find, via the above posters, that Kirchick has not fully represented the views Greenwald and Yglesias. That is one of the main flaws in his journalistic character: The man simply cannot accurately represent the opinions and views of those he disagrees with. Iin his sporadic posts [these days], one simply cannot trust that you will get accurate information. This is a major flaw for a journalist and one appears to an immutable part of his make up. Tis a pity.
- thejauntyboulevardier
May 1, 2009 at 5:42pm
By my own definition of "self-styled", Jack, then yes. No one appointed me. I came by it honestly, from reading his works. I find them dishonest and misleading, even when- no, especially when- he is making his most important points. Like what jaunty says above me. I feel tha tif the point is important, then Jamie will do anything to prove it, even if he has to elide the full truth. A good writer shouldn't have to do that.
But no, I don't hate Jamie. I want him to do better, since I think his bullshit-detecting instincts are good (even if he feels that is the only thing he has to employ). And now that Marty owns the mag again, it seems likely that Jamie will keep rising. For the sake of TNR, I want him to be a better advocate for his causes, which generally line up with mine.
Anyway, I am done. Enjoy your weekend, everyone.
- boneill
May 1, 2009 at 5:52pm
Got to love how jaunty shows up only when Marty or Jamie speak. Can you say "agenda"?
- dylanposer
May 1, 2009 at 6:02pm
ratnerstar said: "However, that does not mean I feel his actions were morally upstanding"
Unlike your which always are.
I'd be amazed if ratner ever took the side of a pro Israel advocate on any issue.
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 6:33pm
I'd be amazed if jackson ever addressed the issues at hand rather than constantly indulging his persecution complex.
- ratnerstar
May 1, 2009 at 6:49pm
ratnerstar said: “I'd be amazed if jackson ever addressed the issues at hand rather than constantly indulging his persecution complex.”
I’d be even more amazed if starlessratner would show he understands what the issues are.
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 6:55pm
dylanposer,
I must admit that my posting sessions have been seriously curtailed - I now longer have a job where I can operate on autopilot and indulge in multiple daily postings - you must be missing my posts on other threads. For instance, I scintillated on the JZ basketball thread recently, I weighed in on a few of the Specter threads, and I always like to drop in on Jon Chait's threads, though not as much as I used to.
I do admit to enjoying the 5 star entertainment value of the Spine but I am selective. I bet I comment on one out of every 5. Besides, if I never read The Spine, where else could I get the weekly cage fights between jackson and mack? Those are priceless.
The Kirchich posts, which these days are coming out about as often as cicadas, are always such fertile soil for comments.
I do admit to an agenda: I believe that tnr should be represented by talented, intelligent, periodically snarky, and HONEST journalists with INTEGRITY. When I don't see it here on the board, I like to comment.
But back to the issue: My question is this: Are these charges being dropped because once again, as with Ted Stevens, the Bush Justice Department screwed up? Or have they been dropped because this Rosen guy was bummed rapped to begin with? This remains unclear to me.
- thejauntyboulevardier
May 1, 2009 at 7:05pm
Not fair, ratnerstar.
Just the other day jackson was in a record store and there was this big. tall, crew-cutted guy looking at him in a funny way and smiling, and he said "Yes, we have a sale this week on Wagner." Wagner, ratnerstar. Wagner! You know what he was really trying to tell him, very significantly: Wagner.
- WoodyBombay
May 1, 2009 at 7:12pm
ratnerstar said: “I'd be amazed if jackson ever addressed the issues at hand rather than constantly indulging his persecution complex.”
All us Yids constantly indulge our persecution complex.” This absolves you of the charge of having a tendency to persecute Israel supporters albeit in a most civilized manner.
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 7:24pm
Well. withe friends like Bombastic Woody no one could ever charge starlessratner of persecuting tendencies.
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 7:26pm
I'd say I'm a self-styled Kirchick hater. Then again, I actually know the bastard.
- Crock1701
May 1, 2009 at 8:06pm
David Bernstein, May 1, 2009 at The Volokh Conspiracy:
"AIPAC Charges Dropped: The Justice Department has decided to drop charges against two former AIPAC officials accused of sharing classified information given to them by a government official with various individuals, including an Israeli government official. I expressed my skepticism regarding the case here and here. Given that anything about AIPAC tends to bring out the loons, and I have a busy day ahead of me, I'm leaving comments closed. And speaking of loons, I would have preferred that the case go to trial with a "Not Guilty" verdict, given that the loons are now going to console themselves by claiming that the case was dropped because of political pressure by you-know-who.
UPDATE: And I wrote in a comment to one of Orin's posts: From what I've read, this investigation involved long-term phone taps, surveillance, and a sting operation, and they only managed to catch the staffers in [arguably] illegal activities once Franklin told them that he had classified information that the lives of specific Israeli agents in Iran were in danger. This seems like rather thin gruel given the scope of the investigation, which could mean that (1) the hearsay [that AIPAC staffer were engaging in wrongdoing, leading to the investigation] was wrong or exaggerated; (2) as the commentator above suggests, someone was out to get AIPAC; or (3) that the staffers had become more careful about not stepping over the legal line than when the feds got their original information. We are left to wonder whether 1, 2, or 3, or some combination, is correct."
http://volokh.com/
"Given that anything about AIPAC tends to bring out the loons, and I have a busy day ahead of me, I'm leaving comments closed."
This should apply for posts on aipac here also.
Most comments on Kirchick posts could be deleted without losing anything meanigful.
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 8:32pm
Comments like that of crock701 for example.
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 8:32pm
"Then again, I actually know the bastard."
But does he know you, crock70000001?
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 8:33pm
Probably: We went through Yale together. He was a couple years ahead of me, but both were active in the PU. He is, perhaps, more noxious in person than in print. I was much disappointed that, finally free of finding him in the YDN twice a week, I discovered him at my favorite commentary magazine. So yes, I actually do, know the bastard.
- Crock1701
May 1, 2009 at 9:22pm
OK crock, I stand corrected.
You have a personal grievance but that is not true for most posters, here.
Personally, I just look at his posts on topics that are important to me, and this is true for most posters including Marty's. On those topics mostly Israel and antisemitism I tend to learn somethings from them most of the time even if I don't agree with their conclusions, always.
- jacksondyer
May 1, 2009 at 9:51pm
JD: "Examples of misdirected prose"
Pick a column at random. JK's technique is to raise a legitimate issue, then derail it by way of pointless sideswipes at people he has a beef with, and end up compromising rather than benefitting his favored side of the argument. It's an odd approach -- "callow" is the term that comes to mind.
- ironyroad
May 2, 2009 at 1:46pm
You may not like the argument, but no indirect prose here baby: www.commentarymagazine.com/.../dead-aid-by-dambisa-moyo-15141
- basman
May 2, 2009 at 4:54pm
I disagree, basman. I'd say it's a classic piece (at least what I read, as I wasn't sure if that was the abstract or the article). It has all the characteristics. First, the raising of a legitimate issue, and some unobjectionable general history. Then, suddenly the classic JK lurch:
"Africa became the repository of the dreams of Fabian socialists etc etc"
Do what? What exactly does he mean? It's difficult to know where to begin. Perhaps with pointing out that there are many theories and applications of central planning, ranging from Stalinist Russia, to the British Labor Party's nationalization of key industries such as coal, to the U.S. government during WW2. The last two of these involve planning in a democratic system with political accountability. Or perhaps with a slight demur that a degree from the London School of Economics isn't responsible for the murderous authoritarianism of, say, Bokassa in the Central African Republic, a French creation. Or perhaps with noting that many conservative theories of the nation could be also sensed behind African political desires to transcend tribal identity and promote a different kind of loyalty, something African nationalists perceived the Europeans has having managed. Or perhaps with the problem of groundless generalizations in undergrad essays.
See -- at this point he's already strangled his own article so badly that the central argument, whatever it might have been, now lies choking on the ground. And the reader doesn't feel much desire to attempt resuscitation, as s/he didn't do the damage. It's the JK trademark.
- ironyroad
May 3, 2009 at 2:33am
irony you're wrong. I think. Firstly, what you are reading is an abstract. Pay for the review and send me the bill. I'll go the three bucks. The argument of his book review has little to do with his throwaway comment which just gets forgotten in the context of the review. Secondly, Insofar as the reference to Fabian Socialists is concerned he's making a point, waxing a little rhetorical, that policy intellectuals saw in Africa the chance to impose their theories and Fabian socialists bequeather on African bureaucrats a policy legacy of central planning. He goes on to review a book that argues against aid. Thirdlly, without going back to your posts, though Lord know I wish had time to reread them all, my impression is that your notion of indirect prose consists of snarking at people he don't cotton to.
I think we have danced to this tune a few times before, you getting agitated about something you have not read or seen or whatever.
- basman
May 3, 2009 at 9:50am
p.s. In fairness, it's understandable that you thought I meant for you to consider only the abstracted piece. But I didn't.
- basman
May 3, 2009 at 10:06am
basman, I'm not really disputing some complex argument that JK is presenting on Africa and aid -- I might even agree with him -- but his writing style just irritates the hell out of me. That's all. Below the rational rader stuff.
- ironyroad
May 3, 2009 at 1:51pm
rational radAr, I mean
- ironyroad
May 3, 2009 at 2:22pm
okey doke
- basman
May 4, 2009 at 4:06pm
You are *not* pond scum, I don't care what anybody says
- basman
May 4, 2009 at 4:08pm
ha!
- ironyroad
May 4, 2009 at 6:37pm