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THE TREATMENT MARCH 10, 2010

More Nonsense About the Public Opinion

 

In the Financial Times today, S. Ward Casscells, a former Assistant Secretary of Defense in George W. Bush’s sterling administration, and pollster John Zogby have an op-ed calling for Congress to start over and draft a bipartisan health care bill. “It is possible a Republican leader could yet emerge and resolve the healthcare impasse,” they intone. And oh yes, it is possible, too, that aliens could land is Oshkosh and take over city hall. 

But let that silliness pass. I am more concerned about the continuing B.S. that pollsters are injecting into the healthcare debate. Pentagon healthcare expert Casscells and pollster Zogby write, “Still, almost all Republicans and most independents oppose Mr. Obama’s plan. The summit did not change their views…” And the sentence continues, but I want to dwell on the two claims that Mr. Pentagon and Mr. Pollster make about public opinion. 

First, do “most” independents oppose Mr. Obama’s plan? Now the term “most” implies well more than a majority. It’s perfectly good grammar to say that “most American homes now have indoor toilets” – with “most” meaning well over 90 percent. So one expects pretty high percentages in this case. (Oh, sorry, I have to interrupt this paragraph to report that I just got a robocall call from “Jim White from Federal Mortgage Services” promising me lower mortgage rates – is the FTC’s “no call” service still working??) Back now to the subject at hand: Do “most” independents oppose the plan. 

The most recent poll, taken Feb. 26-28, is by Ipsos/McClatchy. It’s a large poll, with over a thousand respondents.  And here is what it reports about independents. They favor – yes favor – “the healthcare proposals currently being discussed” by 43 to 41 percent. That would presumably include “Mr. Obama’s plan.” Did the summit change their views? It’s hard to say, because the poll didn’t ask specifically about the summit, but if you look at the prior result in late January before the summit, independents at that time opposed the proposals by 41 to 36 percent. That’s a seven percent swing in a poll with over a thousand respondents.   I like the Financial Times, but maybe they should do some rudimentary fact-checking in their op-eds.

 

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Since when did anything coming out of a Bush administration official resemble the truth? I wouldn't start now in expecting it. Kinda hard to undo lying for 8 years in less than 1.

- tnmats

March 10, 2010 at 1:08pm

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Umm, not that I disagree with your overall point, but...

Now the term “most” implies well more than a majority.
Really? That's not at all what the term "most" implies to me. It implies a simple majority. I have nine coworkers, five of whom are men; I would feel very comfortable saying "Most of my coworkers are male." If 50.01% of independent voters disapprove of health care, then ... well, most of them do. I'm fairly certain this is the way English works.

- ratnerstar

March 10, 2010 at 3:57pm

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Yeah, for all that I'm a sympathetic audience for this blog, I have no problem with "most" meaning "anything over half."

- frippo

March 10, 2010 at 7:44pm

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Some readers are perhaps right to snag you on the hermeneutics of "most," but hair-splitting aside, please--fellow readers--focus on the absurdity of the bona fides of the "health-care expert" and the outlandish misuse by Zogby of his own pollster reputation in this unpleasant little exercise in misrepresentation in the FT article--at least semi-buried in a foreign land. It is a broken record worth playing as long as the other tune keep playing its false song: the truth is being flogged to death with trite and often dishonest slogans on the Right.

- atlasqq

March 15, 2010 at 11:42am

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