THE VINE MARCH 19, 2009
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Trying to tease out What Americans Think about climate change is incredibly frustrating. One will show people hand-wring over rising temperatures. But the next poll will suggest it's a low priority compared with other issues. Then a third poll will find that people are willing to trade some economic growth to protect the environment. Yet another poll will show that people don't want to pay more for, say, gas—even if it'd reduce oil use. Obviously, responses are sensitive to the wording of the questions—a tweak here or there can lead to vastly different sentiments. But the overall mishmash makes you wonder if people have the dimmest idea what they're talking about.
That said, this extensive new survey from a Yale and George Mason University research team, which interviewed some 2,164 Americans in late 2008, puts together a fairly coherent picture of public opinion on climate issues, and jibes with many previous findings. Some 72 percent of respondents think global warming is important. But it's a backburner issue compared with our economic woes—and ranks just tenth out of eleven national issues. Scientists may be pleading that we're fast approaching a point-of-no-return, as temperatures soar and various "tipping points" lurk around the bend, but people are distracted. Still, there's ample support for certain policies:
- 92 percent supported more funding for research on renewable energy sources, such as solar and wind power;
- 85 percent supported tax rebates for people buying energy efficient vehicles or solar panels;
- 80 percent said the government should regulate carbon dioxide as a pollutant;
- 69 percent of Americans said the United States should sign an international treaty that requires the U.S. to cut its emissions of carbon dioxide 90% by the year 2050.
Tally it up, and the public basically endorses Obama's energy agenda—plus supporting more offshore drilling and more nuclear plants. What's more, 67 percent of Americans say we should reduce our greenhouse gas emissions even if China, India, and Brazil haven't already acted—they're perfectly ready for the United States to show some sort of global leadership. But what if these measures are costly? Surprisingly, support remains quite sturdy:
- 79 percent supported a 45 mpg fuel efficiency standard for cars, trucks, and SUVs, even if that meant a new vehicle cost up to $1,000 more to buy;
- 72 percent supported a requirement that electric utilities produce at least 20 percent of their electricity from wind, solar, or other renewable energy sources, even if it costs the average household an extra $100 a year;
- 72 percent supported a government subsidy to replace old water heaters, air conditioners, light bulbs, and insulation, even if it cost the average household $5 a month in higher taxes;
- 63 percent supported a special fund to make buildings more energy efficient and teach Americans how to reduce their energy use, even if this cost the average household $2.50 a month in higher electric bills.
True, that last question is murky—on what blue planet would energy-efficient buildings lead to higher electric bills? But these results are striking, not least because this survey was taken last fall, when gas prices were soaring past $3.25 per gallon, and everyone was griping about energy costs. Although Gas, by the way, seems to have some bizarre mystical fence around it—only 33 percent of Americans support even a paltry 25-cent gas tax hike, even if the revenues are fully rebated via income tax cuts. Higher electric bills? Fine. Higher pump prices? Oh hell no. This seems irrational, but maybe the fact that people can follow the price of gas so avidly, watching it undulate on every billboard in town, gives it some weird untouchable status. I have no idea.
Now, there's one catch. Only 53 percent of Americans support a cap-and-trade system for carbon emissions, and even that support is relatively soft: Just 11 percent "strongly support" it, while 23 percent "strongly oppose" it. That leads to another puzzling result—Americans support steep emission cuts, even at fairly high costs to themselves, but don't like cap and trade, which is the most viable means of getting there (the pollsters didn't ask about a carbon tax). That means Obama has his work cut out for him if he wants to sell this idea—though it does seem genuinely possible to sell it.
This is partly why I do think Congress should pass some of the more popular parts of its energy agenda now—like renewable-energy mandates and efficiency standards—but wait until later this year or even next year to push for a cap-and-trade regime, when (cross your fingers) they've got the banking crisis under control and the White House can turn its full attention to the looming climate crisis. It just seems doubtful Congress can squeak cap and trade through this summer, without a sustained push from the top.
--Bradford Plumer
5 comments
"Gas, by the way, seems to have some bizarre mystical fence around it—only 33 percent of Americans support even a paltry 25-cent gas tax hike, even if the revenues are fully rebated via income tax cuts."
"bizarre"? Not really. First, most people have a terrible experience of rebates generally, so much so that many private sector firms are discontinuing the practice and simply deducting the rebate from the price of the good at POS.
Second, even if you could persuade people to overcome their redsidual fear and loathing of rebates, you still are screwing them by withholding their money for such a long period. The interest on thousands of dollars is significant.
Third, compounding the above is the fact that the federal government has next to zero credibility when it comes to strict accounting and transparent treatment of revenues/taxes. The games played with the Social Security tax alone are enough to make any American feel like a sucker for entrusting the government with a rebate program.
Finally, you're talking about people's cars, which most low-income Americans who live outside of the tiny handful of urban cores that actually have extensive mass transit are completely dependent on. The potential for this tax to be unfairly applied by a Congress that has already distinguished itself for mendacity and incompetence, and earned a public approval rating lower than W's, is very high.
- teplukhin2you
March 19, 2009 at 6:05pm
tep--Those are all great points, but I'm not quite convinced they explain the disparity in the poll.
It just seems noteworthy that so many people, in the abstract, would be willing to pay $100 more per year for renewable electricity but NOT $100 more per year for gas, even ignoring the rebate entirely. (Figure average American drives 12,000 miles at 25mpg = 480 gallons per year, so 25-cent tax comes to extra $120.) Home electricity's essential too, and there's just as much potential for screw-ups, games, etc. Yet an overwhelming majority would pay an extra $100 for renewable power while only a small minority would back a gas tax. Maybe it's because the broader benefits of the gas tax are unclear? That seems like one good possibility.
- Brad Plumer
March 19, 2009 at 6:34pm
Ah, but we're talking about cars, which are an even bigger American fetish than just about any other artefact connected with freedom and the open range. Guns included.
Americans learn from age 16 onward that, after taking away one's freedom, one of the heaviest punishments you can impose on an American is to take away his car.
If Congress wants to tax gas heavily-- and it should-- then Congress will have to find a way to show the public an immediate and equivalent benefit. Here's a proposed solution from left field: let citizens use their Health Savings Accounts to pay for gasoline as well as health care. Have the Treasury credit the HSA debit card at the pump for the amount of the tax.
- teplukhin2you
March 19, 2009 at 7:17pm
I think the correct answer is that on this topic, people do NOT have the dimmest idea what they're talking about. They would love for it to magically go away or be resolved.
- JEFF FREY
March 20, 2009 at 3:39am
"This is partly why I do think Congress should pass some of the more popular parts of its energy agenda now—like renewable-energy mandates and efficiency standards...". EPA has already mandated renewable energy in a big way, Brad. There is a phase-in for biodiesel and ethanol, including cellulosic which, by 2020 will bring renewables in transportation fuel up to over 15% of the transportation fuel. For some reason, home heating is exempt. In addition, the EPA will impose GHG limits on plant emissions in the near future. Monitoring all carbon emissions at the plant level becomes mandatory as of 01/01/10.
Taxing carbon is coming. Cap and trade will probably be the vehicle precisely because it is less transparent than a straight tax. This way, the public blames high prices on oil companies, not the government. Most of us in industries directly affected would prefer a tax. But, we would strenuously resist any taxation that does not also include a concerted global agreement for so called developing countries, particularly China, to tax carbon at the same rate. Controlling GHG proliferation should be a global concern and not an excuse to punish US industry.
- r-ennis
March 20, 2009 at 9:11am