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ECONOMY SEPTEMBER 10, 2008

Falling Down

More than 75 years ago, confidence in the market economy got a rude shock as the world sank into the Great Depression. Adam Smith had said that the market led the economy, as if by an invisible hand, to economic efficiency and societal wellbeing. It was hard to believe that Smith was right when one in four Americans was out of a job. Some economists held true to their faith in self-regulating markets; they said, just be patient, in the long run the market’s restorative forces will take hold, and we will recover. But Keynes’s retort ruled the day: In the long run, we are all dead. We could not wait. Today, even conservatives believe that government should intervene to maintain the economy at or near full employment.

Those who believe in free markets have now received another rude shock: We have not yet sunk into an “official” recession, but it has been more than half a year since any new jobs were created, and, meanwhile, our labor force continues to grow. If the Great Depression undermined our confidence in macroeconomics (the ability to maintain full employment, price stability, and sustained growth), it is our confidence in microeconomics (the ability of markets and firms to allocate labor and capital efficiently) that is now being destroyed. Resources were misallocated and risks were mismanaged so severely that the private sector had to go running to the government for help, lest the entire system melt down. Even with federal intervention, I have estimated the cumulative gap between what our economy could have produced—had we invested in actual businesses, rather than, say, mortgages for people who couldn’t afford their homes—and what we will produce over the period of our slowdown to be more than $1.5 trillion.

Blame has rightly fallen on the financial markets because it is their responsibility to allocate capital and manage risk, and their failure has revived several old concerns of the political (and economic) left. Some looking at the U.S. economy’s decreasing reliance on manufacturing and increasing dependence on the service sector (including financial services) have long worried that the whole thing was a house of cards. After all, aren’t “hard objects”—the food we eat, the houses we live in, the cars and airplanes that we use to transport us from one place to another, the gas and oil that provides heat and energy—the “core” of the economy? And if so, shouldn’t they represent a larger fraction of our national output?

The simple answer is no. We live in a knowledge economy, an information economy, an innovation economy. Because of our ideas, we can have all the food we can possibly eat—and more than we should eat—with only 2 percent of the labor force employed in agriculture. Even with only 9 percent of our labor force in manufacturing, we remain the largest producer of manufactured goods. It is better to work smart than to work hard, and our investments in education and technology have enabled us to enjoy higher standards of living—and to live longer—than ever before. America’s dominance in so many aspects of high-tech is testimony to the real returns to these soft expenditures. Indeed, I would argue that we would do even better if we had more resources in these sectors.

But the view that our recent success is based on a house of cards has more than a grain of truth to it. In recent years, financial markets created a giant rich man’s casino, in which well-off players could take trillion dollar bets against each other. I am among those who believe that consenting adults should be allowed great freedom in what they do—as long as they don’t harm others. But there’s the rub. These high-rollers weren’t just gambling their own money. They were gambling other people’s money. They were putting at risk the entire financial system—indeed, our entire economic system. And now we are all paying the price.

 

FINANCIAL MARKETS HAVE BEEN LIKENED to the brain of the economy. They are supposed to allocate capital and manage risk. When they do their job well, economies prosper. When they do their job badly, as we are once again learning, everyone suffers. Financial markets are amply rewarded for their work—in recent years, they have received over 30 percent of corporate profits—and the standard mantra in economics was that these rewards were commensurate with their social return. That is, financial wizards might walk off with a great deal of money, but the rest of society is better off because our capital generates so much more productivity than in societies with less well-developed—and less rewarded—financial markets. Part of the rewards that accrue to financial markets are thus for encouraging innovation—through venture capital firms and the like.

But not all innovations enhance welfare, even when they increase profits. For instance, cigarette profits may have increased when the tobacco industry developed products that were more addictive, but those who died as a result, and their families, were hardly better off; nor were the taxpayers who had to pick up the tab for the increased health care costs. Food companies that, today, taking a page out of the same playbook, develop products that lead to compulsive eating—and the resulting obesity epidemic—may be increasing profits, but not societal well-being. Microsoft was ingenious in its strategies to leverage the monopoly power it had from controlling the PC operating system; it increased its profits, but, in killing rivals like Netscape, it had a chilling effect on innovation.

The task of unraveling all that went wrong in our financial system is a difficult one, but in essence the financial system’s latest innovation was to devise fee structures that were often far from transparent and that allowed it to generate enormous profits—private rewards that were not commensurate with social benefits. The imperfections of information (resulting from the non-transparency) led to imperfections in competition, helping to explain why the usual maxim that competition drives profits to zero seemed not to hold. One should have suspected that something was wrong when bank after bank made so much money year after year. One should have suspected that something was wrong with the economic system when millions of Americans owed billions to credit card companies and banks in “late fees,” “penalties,” and a variety of other charges, transforming a high annual interest rate of 20 percent into a truly usurious effective interest rate of 100 percent or more for those who fell behind in their payments.

Perhaps the worst problems—like those in the subprime mortgage market—occurred when non-transparent fee structures interacted with incentives for excessive risk-taking in which financial managers got to keep high returns made one year, even if those returns were more than offset by losses the next. Behind the subprime crisis were mortgages designed to encourage repeated refinancing of homes—a pyramid scheme that generated billions of dollars in fees for the mortgage company as long as home prices continued to soar. It was inevitable that the bubble would break. But, by then, the profits that had been pocketed would make these financial wizards secure for life—or, at least, that was their hope.

To put it another way, had those in the financial sector allocated capital and risk in a way that fueled the economy, they would have had handsome profits. But they wanted more, and so established incentive structures that encouraged gambling. If they gambled and won, they could walk away with a share of the profits. If they gambled and lost, the investors would bear the consequences. It was almost as if the entire financial system was converted into a giant casino in which the system was rigged to guarantee those running the games huge returns, at the expense of the players. But in Las Vegas and Atlantic City, the games are near zero-sum: The gains of the casino owners approximately equal the losses of the players. The financial-system-as-casino, on the other hand, is a negative-sum game. Those on Wall Street may have walked off with billions, but those billions are dwarfed by the costs to be paid by the rest of us. Some have lost their homes and life savings—to say nothing of their dreams for their own futures and those of their children. Others are innocent bystanders who resisted the false promises of the mortgage brokers and the credit card companies, but now find themselves out of jobs as the economy weakens. And the poor are hurt as state revenues plummet, forcing cutbacks in public services.

The current woes in America’s financial system are not an isolated accident—a rare, once-in-a-century event. Indeed, there have been more than one hundred financial crises worldwide in the last 30 years or so. Here in the United States alone, we have had the S&L crisis in 1989, the dot-com/WorldCom/Enron problems of the early years of this decade, and now the subprime-morphing-into-the-beyond-subprime collapse. In addition to these national problems, there were regional troubles—real-estate crises fed by excessive lending in Texas and the Southwest in the mid-’80s, and in California and New England in the early ‘90s. In each of these instances, financial markets failed to do what they were supposed to do in allocating capital and managing risk. In the late ‘90s, for instance, so much capital was allocated to fiber optics that, by the time of the crash, it was estimated that 97 percent of fiber optics had seen no light.

In short, the problem with the U.S. economy is not that we have allocated too many resources to the “soft” areas and too few to the “hard.” It is not necessarily that we have allocated too many resources to the financial sector and rewarded it too generously—though a strong argument could be put forward to that effect. It is that too little effort was devoted to managing real risks that are important—enabling ordinary Americans to stay in their homes in the face of economic vicissitudes—and that too much effort went into creating financial products that enhanced risk. Too much energy has been spent trying to make an easy buck; too much effort has been devoted to increasing profits and not enough to increasing real wealth, whether that wealth comes from manufacturing or new ideas. We have learned a painful lesson, both in the 1930s and today: The invisible hand often seems invisible because it’s not there. At best, it’s more than a little palsied. At worst, the pursuit of self-interest—corporate greed—can lead to the kind of predicament confronting the country today.

Joseph Stiglitz is University Professor at Columbia University, winner of the 2001 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics, and co-author of The Three Trillion Dollar War.

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Well, Mr. Stiglitz has many points .. and those points are specifically very-RIGHT .. about the trends of economies, and their underlying supports .. and the trends that can result. Of course, the financial/lucrative sections of America's institutions should share some BLAME, but there are other factors .. from the increased flux/flow of non-American economies, industries .. and THEIR increased effects on the entire economic world, also. .. In any case, and IMHO, a very-fine article .. by Mr. Stiglitz.

- John

August 29, 2008 at 12:03am

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No senior economist ever mentions the collapse of economic confidence in Japan in the early nineties, the second largest economy in the world, and the impact that had and is till having today. That collapse resulted in a massive export of capital from that country and so pushed down the cost of money worldwide. China was ready for that capital and the wages of Chinese workers ensured that deflation was the continued pressure on the west. Financial operators had an endless supply of cheap finance with which to do deals and take their substantial cut. China and India grew so quickly very much as a result of this cheap money making its way there via London and New York. That continued until last year, very much boosted by 9/11 at which time interest rates were held too low for too long and caused the bubble inflation of asset prices that central bankers foolishly chose to ignore. This was not the market responding irrationally, but to stimuli that have not been seen since the 1920's. The risks taken made sense against this macro- economic background. They made no sense after about 2004 but by then all micro-economic analysis was haywire. This is not market failure but an ineviatble correction as a result of short run incentives to get it wrong. There is pain in the correction, but be thankful it is happening and has not been pereptuated by more interference from bureaucrats and politicians who did not understand what was wrong in the first place.

- Ian Campbell

August 29, 2008 at 8:00am

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We do not remember that Adam Smith was arguing for free markets against the mercantilist economies of his day. In Smith's day the nation state was a relatively new invention and everything, including the economy, was to be run by government created monopolies operating for the greater interest of the state. The envied model was Spain. But Smith could see the coming of the industrial revolution and the importance of production efficiencies and growing markets. He understood the tendency of businessmen to gather together to try to eliminate competition. If he were alive today he would see that one of the functions of the state was to stimulate (and preserve, protect and defend)competition. He must be turning in his grave to see his name used to promote the modern crony capitalism and its welfare state. The economic philosophy in power today is that of Malthus, who argued that the rich should be made richer so that they could give bigger parties and hire more servants.

- oxheadone

September 1, 2008 at 7:01pm

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If I accept your analysis of what forces/people/motives created our current financial market and economy, what then, is the way out of this quagmire? Should we not expect a long period of dormancy in order that an "ineviatable correction" can be made? Can hard work, faith and innovation bring about change in the economy without strong financial backers and eager available workers? Speaking for myself, what is the way forward?

- June Postal

September 3, 2008 at 2:52am

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The article is excellent and effectively diagnoses the problem. But I'm a solutions oriented guy! What reforms and regulations would address the perverse incentives the financial markets provide. I suppose ending the gutting of the SEC could help, but I have next to zero financial expertise. I'd like to hear Steiblitz's opinion of what needs to be done.

- Dave

September 3, 2008 at 5:30am

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If the laws of economics are like swiss cheese, with the holes being the exceptions where the laws of economics break down (unequal access to information, monopoly power, etc.), at what point do the holes get so big that you can no longer fairly describe what you're looking at as "cheese" but instead have to call it "air"?

- Mike

September 3, 2008 at 8:38am

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Not all conservatives agree that we need government intervention in the economy. Perhaps all the blue blood aristocrat Republicans agree, but many conservatives don't. The Great Depression and the current round of fiscal agony are the results of government action, not free markets. The market didn't invest in risky mortgages of its own accord, but because the government created artifically low interest rates and capital that made otherwise unprofitable investments worth the risk. It is government distortion of the market we must end if we're to return to a prosperous economy.

- Pliny

September 3, 2008 at 10:08am

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I am an engineer, not an economist. But my experience with systems engineering tells me that you cannot restrain too many variables at once without detroying your ability to maintain acceptable steady state performance. Having lived in the UK in 1967, even without formal economic education, I could surmise that fixed exchange rates would have to go. That being said, I would like to thank Mr. Campbell for his clear explanation of what we are going through on the economic front, and I agree with his assertion that the correction we are going through must take its course with only minimal interference from bureaucrats and politicians, helping only those ordinary people who are most adversely affected, and who had no complicity in getting us into the mess.

- R. Ennis

September 3, 2008 at 10:58am

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"The market didn't invest in risky mortgages of its own accord" (Pliny) Actually, it did. While it is try that the new global pool of money was looking for alternative investments since US Treasury rates were so low, NINA (No Income, No Assets) and the only slightly less ludicrous loan criterion that preceded them were wholly creations of the market. As for the reform and regulation solution(s) - I think Stiglitz pointed to some. If a sector continues to make more and more money instead of less and less as competition increases, it's probably worth having a look at what's going on. While there would have been howls of protest at the time, I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would now say that restricting or outright eliminating sub-prime mortgages in 2005 or 2006 would have been a bad thing. Restricting the resale of mortgages (so that those who issue the mortgage actually have an interest in ensuring their integrity) would also have been a good idea. The elimination of Usury laws is also something that we have come to regret. In a similar vein to the above, if I'm writing 400% loans, I actually *don't* want people to repay them. I want them to default so that I can take them to the cleaners. Now while most sensible people agree that government interference (through regulation) is burdensome and has downsides (some very serious), the effect of a passive or even pliant the government has been demonstrated to be far more pernicious. Of course the real answer lies in sending people to Congress and the Senate who understand these issues, rather than those who agree with you on a very narrow set of points or happen to belong to a party that you think you identify with without knowing anything actually about them. Duh.

- Nari224

September 3, 2008 at 1:17pm

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Very nice discussion. However, I believe that the loss of our product pipeline deserves more attention. A great deal of the innovation in hard products over the last 100 years was sparked by the manufacturing process. Moving pieces of the pipeline offshore removes the stimulous for innovation.

- David Jaffe

September 3, 2008 at 1:18pm

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Oh no! The sky is falling down! By any metric, the economy is not in a recession. It feels that way because of 1) the media 2) the stock market making news with large point drops 3) price of fuel. Even when the economy was growing steadily (as it is still doing slightly) last year, people felt like they were miserable. Their "gut" told them we were in a recession. And another thing, American enterprise and innovation is alive and well. Computer companies are constantly creating new technologies. These new technologies are invented in the US and manufactured in China/Taiwan/Malaysia. That's perfectly fine because it's American companies that are reaping the profits. That it isn't American blue collar union workers doing the manufacturing is pissing the author off. Who would want to pay $20/hour to some lazy union guy when the same $20 could hire 10 eager chinese workers? The bottom line is that our economy has become more of a service/innovation economy and has moved far away from the manufacturing economy it used to be. Unfortunately for those in manufacturing jobs, they'll just have to adapt. Now, the author wants the government to subsidize these manufacturing jobs and keep them artificially employed. Who pays for that? It's US! The right pocket is paying the left pocket here. Tax dollars don't fall from the sky. Every dollar the gov't spends is a dollar out of someone's pocket.

- jwl2672

September 3, 2008 at 3:50pm

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By the way, our economy grew 3.3% in the last QUARTER (not year, QUARTER), powered mainly from exports. How's that a recession?????

- jwl2672

September 3, 2008 at 4:02pm

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Now comes the presidential election. As an independent, I'm having trouble deciding the lesser of two evils. In theory, I should vote for the Republican because that party has long stood for fiscal responsibility -- except for the past eight years, of course. If I vote for the Democrat, I might get a "change" from the current method of operating in Washington, DC --- except that the candidate is surrounded by the same old faces. I could hope that Congress comes through, but we all know how impotent they have been for decades. Any suggestions?

- Temecula

September 3, 2008 at 4:55pm

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One point that must be made about the current crisis - it is fueled, in part, by the historically low capital gains tax rate. This rate, being lower than income tax rates, make it more likely that those with money to invest will invest it in capital markets, stocks, and, yes, housing. And seeing the growing debt and 2010 sunset of the Bush tax cuts that will almost certainly not be halted, they were getting theirs as quickly as they could. Yes, government policy plays a role. Usually, insiders will change a policy in order to make a particular type of investment lucrative in a get-rich-quick fashion, people will flock to it, and they'll make tons of money until it collapses under its own weight. But the housing market wasn't so much a casino as it was a Ponzi scheme - it only continued to work as long as you could get new investors to buy the bad mortgages. Once people wised up, it fell apart. The same thing could happen with oil. In general, the problem with all American market failures is the greedy get-rich-quick philosophy of the investors. One other factor: as long as the government is willing to pony up taxpayer dollars to cover any institutional losses, institutions will continue to make risky bets.

- Jim

September 3, 2008 at 5:10pm

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This article distorts history and logic, it is garbage. The great depression was caused by tarrifs and tax increases resulting in nationalism. The new deal along with terrible monetary policy postponed recovery--just like the interventions we are seeing today has postponed recovery. We are also seeing terrible monetary policy and the rise of nationalism. Government cannot manage the economy--just like it cannot manage outcomes. Government is the problem; more freedom is always the solution.

- Barack Obama

September 3, 2008 at 5:56pm

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Pliny wants to blame the current crisis on government, but I'm not buying it. Most economists accept that a key role of the Fed is to influence interest rates so as to balance desireable economic growth against unwanted inflation. Given that general inflation didn't shoot up, the Fed can't justly be accused of setting interest rates too low. The Fed primarily affects the interest rate for very safe loans. The market largely determines risk premia for less-safe loans. Due to the conflicts of interest alluded to by Professor Stiglitz, interest rates were set far too low for mortgage loans that could only be afforded so long as house prices were appreciating. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac largely stayed out of sub-prime lending due to their government-set rules; it was the banks that gambled like crazy. So I definitely see the current crisis as a market failure rather than the fault of governement.

- Bill

September 3, 2008 at 7:18pm

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A very nice article from a giant in the field of economics. It seems that he lays at least some of the blame for the financial crisis on "non-transparent fee structures." The problem I have with that diagnosis is that most fee structures - whether for credit cards or mortgages - are explained and presented to consumers at the outset, as regulations require. At some point, consumer ignorance and incompetence has to come in to play. Yes, some people were clearly lied to by mortgage brokers and documents were forged - but I think it's pretty clear that the vast majority of those in consumer and mortgage debt knew that they were taking a risk, but were uneducated enough to not gauge that risk appropriately. Perhaps Mr. Stiglitz should create an online econ 101 course (including a section on personal investments and risk) and allow the government to provide it for free to everyone signing up for a mortgage or credit card.

- reb

September 3, 2008 at 7:23pm

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Overall, the article makes some excellent points -- just another example of the fox guarding the hen house. The larger problem seems to be that there are few people who have a long enough attention span to see history repeating itself. The pendulum continues to swing back and forth between to much governmental regulation to to little (or at least too little enforcement). In the 80's we had the S & L scandal, which then prompted a new slew of government regulations for the banking industry. These regulations were grdually softened over time, leading up to the last 7 years in which many were eliminated, or at a least minimally enforced. Now the pendulum is swinging back the other way. I would agree that the issue of transparency (or lack thereof) is one of the keys. I don't think most people would object to penalties for those committing outright fraud -- but it was the ability of those in the loan industry and other financial sectors to act without adequate scrutiny which prevented any chance of clamping down on their behavior in time to have any chance to reduce the severity of the problems which now exist. If these loan brokers and others had been forced to make public on a weekly or monthly basis the number of loans there were selling to people who had not been required to prove their ability to repay the loans, odds are the market would have taken care of the problem a lot more quickly. So, I would agree that transparency is the key. The free market can't lead to the greatest efficiency if some of the players are gaming the system.

- J

September 3, 2008 at 7:29pm

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I am a right-wing yahoo, but I agree with Stiglitz. I agree with commenter Pliny as well. This is a government-created problem, by having the Fed and Treasury assume all of the risk for bad banks like Countrywide, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac. We should repudiate the GSE debt and let the buyers face the consequence for buying bad debt.

- W.C. Varones

September 3, 2008 at 8:40pm

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“No Manufacturing. No New Ideas. What's Our Economy Based On?” --A reformed foundation for commercial, financial, production and distribution systems, that commerce, with select and reformed manufacturing, is now being constructed upon (projects abound, are in the works, pending, and will literally BOOM in the next few years, regardless of which presidential candidate wins the November election). --The foundation was established, 1956-98. The erection of the new foundation coincided with the conservation of American mineral resources, including energy (circa 1959-1979-present, and now coming back online), and the 1967-98 destruction of the American commercial, financial, production and distribution systems, major portion of the American legal code, and the cultural reformation of American “Human Resources” (A.K.A. The population of American citizens). --A new reformed ‘economy,’ heavily intertwined with the reformed ‘economies’ and ‘human resources’ of a bloc of American-Anglo-French-Dutch-Japanese-German-dominated countries and satellites, all now establishing a system of manufacturing, with modernized industries, first pioneered by the American-Anglo-Russian axis during WWII. --New Ideas? The so-called “Military Revolution:” The on-going development of the most powerful and sophisticated war machine in the history of Mankind, centrally directed, and comprised of the militaries of the same American-Anglo-French-Dutch-Japanese-German-dominated countries and satellites, on the basis of the “division of labor,” pioneered by such as NATO and SEATO during the Cold War. --The real question is what is the purpose of this new reformed American economy and population? It sure doesn't look like its been formed for American citizens. Rather, it looks a lot more like American citizens have been re-formed for it (and at a high cost). So, precisely what is the purpose of this new “economy?” That Is The Question. All of us should be curious to know precisely what the “higher purpose" is that we new, reformed, and still being-reformed, Americans are supposed to dedicate our "purpose-driven lives” to.

- p.

September 3, 2008 at 8:59pm

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Free markets don't exist in a vacuum. The same is true of societies in general. Thus it is falacious to say that government intervention is responsible for the Great Depression and thereby imply that government intervention is responsible for our current woes. It is more correct to say that both were due to an abismal failure of public policy. The world needs more and better economists in order to keep its robber barons under a tight leash.

- Mark A. Sadowski

September 3, 2008 at 9:03pm

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"More than 75 years ago, confidence in the market economy got a rude shock as the world sank into the Great Depression." It's shocking to observe that a Nobel Prize winner in economics fails to understand (or at least acknowledge, here) that in any discussion of the free market it is the first word that is absolutely essential. The Depression, as is now widely known even within his own profession, was caused by and worsened by government interference in the economy. And, to bring up Keynes of all people as someone who should be listened to with all we've learned about how markets and government regulation works (see Mises, et al) is simply incomprehensible. More evidence, as if any were needed of how the wrong basic philosophy can distort a person's thinking.

- Jeff Perren

September 3, 2008 at 9:10pm

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The purpose of regulation is to force people to do things other than what they *want* to do. Before we take away more economic freedom, we must truly stabilize the dollar and see if this solves the problem. I believe that the Fed is the underlying cause of the boom-bust cycle in asset prices.

- Louis

September 4, 2008 at 12:37am

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Stiglitz calls the financial system which boomed after the amendment of Glass-Steagall a "casino." Better it should be known as an ungodly agglomeration of hedge funds -- as in J.P.Morgan-Chase, the Biggest Hedge Fund on Earth. These hedge funds (investors of OPM) are enabled and their actions approved by the government (principally, the FRB and the SEC). Get the government out of the market, characterize managers of other people's money as what they are -- fiduciaries, apply the standards of fiduciary duty to their activities, and the market can take care of itself.

- Ellen1910

September 4, 2008 at 4:01am

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Stiglitz sipmly has forgotten that all that 'prosperity' was created with heavy leverage where banks need at most 8 cents on the dollar in order to lend it. And because lots of that fiat money was exported to Asia and then lent out again to the government it made 2 circles and ended up mostly in the military and health care sector. At the same time the country as a whole was and still is sinking into debt. All this is borrowed life, not prosperity.

- bb

September 4, 2008 at 4:50am

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I agree with Dr. Stiglitz' characterization that the US economy is a knowledge-based economy. Unfortunately, almost every measure of the progress of our nation's educational system shows it in decline absolutely in specific test scores and comparatively across the world for nearly a half century. The challenge is figuring out how to fix the educational system.

- Terry

September 4, 2008 at 9:26am

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Prof. Stiglitz is absolutely correct. Financial managers are the "transmission" of the economy. The real driving force should come from the "engine" where real ideas and productivity comes from. Unfortunately, our system rewards the transmission excessively, and the engines of the economy: scientists and engineers, are rewarded like trash. This social trend comes from the desire for leisure and easy money, and even ridiculing of hard work and intellectualism. Every empire, in their complacency, develops these trends. You don't need to go further than the "reality" TV shows to see resemblance with Roman times.

- Sean

September 4, 2008 at 11:09am

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And dont forget about savings... Savings is what is supposed to help us weather these financial storms. NOT government debt financing.

- Iconoclast421

September 4, 2008 at 5:28pm

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Did anyone notice that the title of this article has nothing to do with its contents, and is actually entirely contrary to what Stiglitz says?

- Anthony

September 6, 2008 at 6:37pm

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For the growing legions of uneducated, unskilled in our society, it is an economy not of services but of servants. Shame on our policy elites!

- Luke Lea

September 15, 2008 at 8:26pm

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Anytime you see dogs granted credit cards there is a problem.

- Sam

January 26, 2009 at 9:15pm

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