THE SPINE DECEMBER 11, 2006
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Of course, children do get hurt in the wars of the terrorists and even in the wars against terrorists. Some of them even get killed. And, among the warriors against terror, there is tremendous moral agitation when this happens.
This morning in Gaza City three children of an intelligence officer in the Palestinian Authority were murdered in a car taking them to school. The children were the kids of Baha Balousheh, one of Mahmoud Abbas's senior aides. They were not accidental victims. They were intended to be victims, all three of them, at ages three, six, and nine. As I write a report was also posted on The New York Times website. This was a drive-by shooting. "The car was riddled with at least 30 bullets. Its seats, school bags and a plastic bag with a sandwich in it were splattered with blood." No, the father was not in the car. The father never took his children to school, and for good reason. OK, you can't get the father. Get at the father through his kids.
25 comments
I think I recall that type of thing in Arafat's playbook.
- boxofrox
December 11, 2006 at 7:35pm
it's been going on for a long time. These creeps are just gangsters.
- jacksondyer
December 11, 2006 at 9:42pm
"These creeps are just gangsters." Exactly. They are the scum of the Earth. Only a politically correct culture might consider them to be "victims of Zionist imperialism."
- thomsondavid
December 11, 2006 at 10:25pm
no one hear actually said that. Are you just responding to the voices in your head?
- brian@xao.com
December 11, 2006 at 11:01pm
SEE POST THE SECOND.
- basman
December 12, 2006 at 12:23am
While working in the Israeli Occupied Palestinian territories, I have seen IDF and security forces dress up like Arabs and shoot people. One of my friends was almost shot in a recent duvdevanim operation in Ramallah. (This brutal attack was of course completely unreported in the English-language press.) Why would anyone assume that the attack was anything but another murderous Zionist false flag operation -- especially because it is so congruent with the explicit Zionist goal of creating animosity between various Palestinian factions?
- ThorsProvoni
December 12, 2006 at 6:55am
By the way, it is the nature of the extremely dirty demographic war that fanatic racist Zionists are waging on the native population of Palestine that favored targest of the IDF and security forces seem to be children and pregnant women according to the statistical analysis of the victims of the IDF and security forces.
- ThorsProvoni
December 12, 2006 at 6:57am
I guess there are some pretty far out there people posting. Dirty demographic war? Come on Thors.
- brian@xao.com
December 12, 2006 at 9:20am
I worked in Israel and the OT for 10 years. I have watched how the IDF treat pregnant Palestinian women and children. I read the Hebrew newspapers. Israeli Zionist commentators openly discuss the milhemet ukhlasiya or some similar term. The government is actively trying to make it hard for Palestinians with Israeli citizenship to live in Stolen Palestine. Just look at the tricks of Israeli citizenship. It is practically impossible for an Arab to be naturalized even if he or she marries an Israeli citizen. Israeli Palestinians get Israeli citizenship via inheritance from a parent. Jews get citizenship via right of return, which also includes non-Arab spouses of Jews as the law is currently written. Thus an Israeli Palestinian, who marries his or her cousin from Ramallah, will eventually have to leave Palestine entirely, because the Ramallah cousin cannot be naturalized and will eventually be denied a visitor's visa. The Israeli Palestinian cannot live in Ramallah because Israeli citizens are not allowed. The Israeli Palestinian can't even renounce Israeli citizenship and live with the cousin in Ramallah because Israel won't grant him permanent residence in Ramallah. Israeli Zionists and racist ethnic Ashkenazi Americans are definitely waging a very sick and perverted demographic war against the native Palestinian population. All Americans committed to American ideals of human rights, anti-racism and democracy should really think carefully whether racist Ashkenazi Americans, who believe that Jews have the right to plunder and to kill non-Jews with impunity, really have any right to American citizenship, or whether they should be sent back to Eastern Europe, where all the fanatic genocidal racists think just like racist ethnic Ashkenazi Americans.
- ThorsProvoni
December 12, 2006 at 10:01am
One might note that the 'tremendous moral agitation' did not dissuade the IDF from dumping a 2000-lb bomb on an apartment in Gaza on 22 July, 2002, thereby killing Hamas leader Salah Shehada... as well as 15 innocent people, including eight children. Ah, well... Given Mr Peretz's attitude toward Palestinians, I'm a bit surprised that he's worried about a few children being killed. It would be different, of course, if they'd been killed by the Israelis.
- SMacEachern2
December 12, 2006 at 10:29am
One might note just that, if one were intent on clouding the issue. I recall tremendous outrage, both at the bombing and at then-PM Sharon's initial response. When Israelis kill Palestinian kids, it's an atrocity. When Palestinians kill Palestinian kids, it's, well, it's, um, hey, look at what those nasty Zionists did three years ago!
- cleavet
December 12, 2006 at 11:53am
You wrote "[the] favored targest of the IDF and security forces seem to be children and pregnant women according to the statistical analysis of the victims of the IDF and security forces." Can you provide a reference to this statistical analysis?
- cleavet
December 12, 2006 at 11:55am
My second paragraph refers to your moral blinders, by the way, and not those of the residents of Gaza, who seem to have their heads screwed on more straight on this matter: http://tinyurl.com/y9l5g4
- cleavet
December 12, 2006 at 12:02pm
Go to the Betselem website. They have done copious analysis of Palestinian casualties, types of injuries, ages of people that have sustained them. The Btselem website also links into the Red Crescent website. I could probably put you in touch with former members of Rabbis for Human Rights, ICAHD, Profil Hadash. These data are really easy to obtain. Only fanatic racists, who believe Jews [really ethnic Ashkenazim] could not possibly undertake a racist program of ethnic suppression despite the record of ethnic Ashkenazim in the Soviet Union and in Stolen and Occupied Palestine (e.g. Rep. Nancy Pelosi, Alan Dershowitz, Abe Foxman, Elie Wiesel), dispute them. For the Soviet side statistics in English, check out The Jewish Century by Slezkine. His bibliography includes Russian language sources.
- ThorsProvoni
December 12, 2006 at 12:09pm
We have no evidence that Palestinians killed the kids. Given Israeli Zionist record for killing Palestinians including children with duvdevanim and other special forces units that pretend to be Arabs, until proven otherwise, it is most likely that the kids were killed by the Zionist military or special forces. Zionists have a horrendous record of killing Jews or preventing them from fleeing death in false flag operations or if there is some strategic or propaganda purpose. The murderousness of fanatic racist ethnic Ashkenazim seems to know no bounds. The hands of fanatic ethnic Ashkenazi Jabotinskians are all over the deaths of American troops in Iraq and 3/4 million Iraqi and Afghani deaths as well as genocide in Palestine. Cleavet just expresses the typical racist Euro-white or Jewish racist supremacy when he makes comments like:
- ThorsProvoni
December 12, 2006 at 12:22pm
LOL
- cleavet
December 12, 2006 at 12:27pm
This kind of reminds me of Hitler vs Stalin. The more different two people seem to be, the more alike they really are. The only difference is that Thors would cart Jews into his gas chambers while Thomson would opt for Arabs. I gotta stay away from The Spine. The psychotic extremism it foments is giving me chills.
- achester99
December 12, 2006 at 12:50pm
I know! The Spine has become the repository of some bizarre commentary. Hitler v Stalin or maybe Godzilla v Rodan... Funny how you don't read as much of this stuff away from the friendly padded walls of The Spine...
- MrCookie1
December 12, 2006 at 2:06pm
"Funny how you don't read as much of this stuff away from the friendly padded walls of The Spine" I knew there was a reason God called Marty to write it!
- cjohnson005
December 12, 2006 at 3:01pm
"...it's, um, hey, look at what those nasty Zionists did three years ago!" ? Where did I say anything about 'nasty Zionists'? In general, though, I think that it's helpful to remind folks of events like that when they start getting on their moral high horses, as Mr. Peretz did with his post. There are a lot of children being killed in this part of the Middle East at this point. Most of them are Palestinian. And quite right... there is entirely understandable outrage in Gaza at this killing of children. What else would you expect?
- SMacEachern2
December 12, 2006 at 3:31pm
The father of the murdered kids--and he's a Fateh intelligence officer--says that Hamas did it, and did it because he had targetted them, previously. Oh, well--maybe the FATHER's really an Israeli "false flag" operation too!
- ae2umail
December 13, 2006 at 7:37pm
This is pretty dumb stuff. If all you got to say is nonsense like the above, then your staying away won't be much of a loss.
- jacksondyer
December 14, 2006 at 4:50pm
"There are a lot of children being killed in this part of the Middle East at this point. Most of them are Palestinian." Don't you get on your Palomino, now. Most of the Palestinian children killed by Israeli soldiers have been shot accidentally. The Jewish children killed by Palestinian Arab had been target deliberately. Besides, let's not forget that Palestinian children are being used as suicide bombers.
- jacksondyer
December 14, 2006 at 4:54pm
"Most of the Palestinian children killed by Israeli soldiers have been shot accidentally." ??? Really? There've been just over 700 Palestinian children killed by Israeli security forces over the last six years. But most of those cases involved kids being shot accidentally by the IDF?? Those soldiers were simply performing their duties, and through bad luck just accidentally killed a Palestinian kid... 700 times, more or less?? Give me a break.
- SMacEachern2
December 15, 2006 at 3:59pm
from Haaretz about one of those 'accidental' IDF killings of Palestinian children - at http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/801268.html
- SMacEachern2
December 16, 2006 at 10:15am