OCTOBER 29, 2007
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Say what you will about Kos, I think he nails it here:
What I'm seeing is lots of people take a look at Hillary, then say,
"Why was it that I hated her again?" The right-wing press told everyone
for so long that they hated Clinton, that people simply assumed they
did. When they see her, they're no longer so sure.
Maybe that explains why the GOP is bashing Hillary on tax-and-spend, not character, grounds.
--Michael Crowley
8 comments
Ooh, ooh, I know who hates Hillary: Republicans! And the last thing I want is a candidate who can reunite a crumbling right wing.
- ejbenjamin
October 29, 2007 at 5:49pm
"Why was it that I hated her again?" More great moments from Blogworld.
So all that noise and fury against HRC, and the DLC, and anyone who like HRC and the DLC didn't sing the Ballad of Joe Wilson and share the Kossack view of the war , was about... what, exactly?
Kos is Hillary's poodle. This low-comedy episode tells us less about HRC's machiavellian skills than about the clownishness of the brave new blogblatherer world.
- teplukhin2you
October 29, 2007 at 5:57pm
I'm very disturbed that Kos is apparently stealing my ideas, as I said much the same thing in the sloppy seconds thread.
- ratnerstar
October 29, 2007 at 6:19pm
Most of my exposure to the candidates is on the radio. I listen to C-Span Radio a lot and I love Road to the White House. So naturally I can't stand the thought of four or eight years of President H.R. Clinton. She's impossible to listen to. I have to change the station even in the rare moments when I agree with her. Obama or Edwards, on the other hand, engage me and make me want to hear what they have to say even when I don't agree. Edwards has become too populist, but he errs in a direction I'm willing to live with. I have heterosexual man crushes on both candidates.
Do I oppose Clinton because I am a man? My wife feels exactly the same way about HRC as I do. She's in the "any Democrat but Clinton" camp. I'll ask my parents and relatives at Thanksgiving, including the one black sheep (Republican), but I'm guessing Hillary will look very different once the primary votes are counted. (Full disclosure: I predicted last spring that Hill would drop out by Labor Day).
- stgla
October 29, 2007 at 6:41pm
I agree that Hillary's voice grates like Nurse Ratchit's, or maybe my midwestern 2nd-grade teacher who said young T "balks at being corrected." And Obama's got the most mellifluous voice I've heard in US politics, period. He could do voiceovers for Lexus. As to Edwards, he triggers my old yankee prejudice against mushmouths (sorry); I can't bear to hear him slush his way along.
But none of the above affects my vote in the slightest. The stakes are too big.
- teplukhin2you
October 29, 2007 at 6:56pm
stgla, amen.
I can think of a lot of reasons why I hate her beyond the voice and the soulless body that projects it. I wish a poll was done of how many Democrats hate her. I imagine it must be in the 30% range. I doubt that any other Democrat is hated by anywhere as many democrats as old Hill is. I think she is poison for the Democrats.
- blackton
October 29, 2007 at 7:38pm
<em>Maybe that explains why the GOP is bashing Hillary on tax-and-spend, not character, grounds.</em>
Mike, I take your point, but when the GOP says "tax-and-spend," they mean it as an attack on character grounds.
- rossjem
October 30, 2007 at 12:58pm
Oh, right. Pfft. I hate her and it's not because the right wing told me to. That whole thing, if it did anything, tipped the scales to me sympathizing with her, back when I wasn't looking too hard. Now that I've looked, the hate is all generated by her. And, because of the inevitability thing, I tried to scrape together some liking so I could vote for her in the general, but it didn't work and only made me hate her more.
- psantillana
October 30, 2007 at 3:08pm