LIFER FEBRUARY 11, 2013
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Roger Ailes is kvetching. “The president likes to divide people into groups,” he huffs into the phone. “He’s too busy getting the middle class to hate rich people, blacks to hate whites. He is busy trying to get everybody to hate each other.” With that off his chest, Ailes gets back on message. “We need to get along,” he says.
It’s an unexpected plea from the Fox News CEO considering his impressive record of provocation. But recently, “getting along” has become an imperative for the conservative movement. Mitt Romney lost the Latino vote by nearly 50 points, and now almost everyone agrees that the Republican Party needs to improve with Hispanic voters to have a shot at the White House in 2016. That could also be Ailes’s last year at Fox News: His contract expires then, when he’ll be 76 years old. So if Roger Ailes wants to see a Republican win what may be his last presidential election as a major player, he’ll need to try to make conservatism more palatable to Latinos. Which, of course, he will.

“The fact is, we have a lot—Republicans have a lot more opportunity for them,” Ailes says. “If I’m going to risk my life to run over the fence to get into America, I want to win. I think Fox News will articulate that.”
There have already been signs of evolution. Sean Hannity, long a staunch opponent of “amnesty,” recently came out in favor of a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. And Florida Senator Marco Rubio, the GOP’s immigration Moses, has been putting in lots of face time on the network. Rubio’s fans include Bill O’Reilly, who called his immigration plan “fair.”
Old habits die hard, however, and some of the delicacies of the immigration debate are lost on these recent converts. Just after the election, O’Reilly chose as one of his show’s best moments a clip of himself saying: “I’m not committing a hate crime by saying ‘illegal aliens’ are just that.” Similarly, Hannity tells me: “I’ve used ‘illegals’ all these years I’ve been on TV....I don’t see it as an offensive term.”
Neither do many Fox viewers. A National Hispanic Media Coalition survey in September found “a consistent pattern whereby Fox News audiences are indeed more likely to hold negative stereotypes about Latinos.” For the average Fox News anchor—not to mention fan—immigration reform is a harder sell than Ailes and other Republican elites admit.

Still, Ailes sees the Latino audience as a “tremendous business opportunity.” Latinos primarily get their news from Spanish-language networks like Telemundo and Univision. When it comes to English-language cable news, the Latino audience is up for grabs: Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC all average fewer than 100,000 Hispanic viewers during prime time, according to Nielson, a fraction of the roughly two million people who tune in to Univision’snewscast, “Noticiero Univision.”
In 2010, Fox launched Fox News Latino, a mostly English-language news website aimed at second- and third-generation Hispanic Americans. The site was the first of its kind, and NBC and The Huffington Post have since created competitors. Ailes says Fox may expand the site to include a 24-hour video news stream. (Cable television stations are hard to obtain, especially after Al Gore sold Current TV to Al Jazeera—or to “the oil people to get rich,” as Ailes describes it.)
“The contributions being made by Latinos are extraordinary, and we need to talk about them,” Ailes says. The Fox News Latino stylebook uses “undocumented immigrant,” and the site downplays immigration stories compared with some of its rivals. “Fox News Latino has a mission to point out the positives of the Latino population, operating within the framework of making America great,” Ailes says.
"I don't have any problem with a path to citizenship"
That’s not as blandly neutral as it sounds. “Hispanics who get on government programs are doing only a little better than they were in the old country,” Ailes elaborates. “Fox News Latino will show people how opportunities exist, that whenever we are overregulated, or there is too much government, we lose freedom. We lose power. That is, historically, one hundred percent true.”
History aside, there is logic to it. “Latinos tend to doubt deeply big government,” says Jorge Ramos, the head anchor at Univision. “Remember, we are coming from countries in Latin America where we are so used to corruption.”
There are other issues too, like abortion and religion, where Hispanics’ views tend to align more closely with the GOP. After the presidential election, a Hispanic Leadership Network poll of four swing states found an average gap of 13 points between Latinos who considered themselves conservative and Latinos who actually voted for Romney. Ailes wants these people not just visiting Fox News Latino, but watching Fox News, too.
“I happen to think that the Latino audience is an essentially traditional audience and will go to Fox News for traditional American values,” Ailes says.

The hitch, of course, is immigration. “Unless the Republican Party changes its position on immigration, it doesn’t matter what they do on other issues,” Ramos says. The challenge is the same for Fox News.
“They are too far gone as a brand,” says Alex Nogales, president of the National Hispanic Media Coalition. “My generation is never going to forget what they’ve done, what they continue to do even now. They have enticed an audience to be prejudicial and discriminatory.”
Ailes knows Fox needs a new message on immigration, even as Fox News Latino draws attention to other issues. “Republicans haven’t used the right language,” Ailes says. “They keep talking about illegal immigration.”
“I think the word ‘illegal immigration’ is a false name,” he continues. “You are talking about two separate issues. One is sovereignty. . . . The media trying to make America feel guilty because we want borders—that, to me, is complete bullshit. Immigration is a separate issue. . . . We should all defend sovereignty, then take a Judeo-Christian approach to immigration. I don’t have any problem with a path to citizenship.”
Rubio has recently taken up a similar line, supporting a path to citizenship only after the Obama administration takes additional steps to enforce immigration laws. But nowhere has the rhetorical problem that Ailes describes been more apparent than on Fox News. “OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HALTS DEPORTATIONS FOR UNDOCUMENTED CHILDREN,” read Fox News Latino’s headline on an A.P. story last summer. As Media Matters pointed out, Fox Nation, the red-meat section of FoxNews.com, headlined the same wire story: “OBAMA ADMINISTRATION BYPASSES CONGRESS, TO GIVE IMMUNITY, STOPS DEPORTING YOUNGER ILLEGALS.”
“There’s an assumption that Fox News Latino is softer on Latinos than Fox News in general,” Ailes says. “That’s ridiculous.” Whether Fox’s Hispanic audience will note a difference remains to be seen. So far, Ailes insists, things are going well—but he’d rather not let his competitors in on his secrets. “I don’t want to get into strategic thinking on this,” he says. “If these dumb bastards invent their own channel, I’m not going to help them.”
10 comments
Fox News Latino? In English? At least CNN has CNN Español. News in your native language I get, I can't imagine why Hispanics would bother with Fox's barrio. Obama also won Asians by an even larger majority. I wonder when Fox will pander to them?
- blackton
February 11, 2013 at 12:53am
That picture of Roger Ailes in the lucha libre mask made me laugh out loud at my desk. Give that illustrator more work at TNR! This article is another wonderful "get" by the new TNR, following up on the Obama skeet shooting story from last week. It really encapsulates the total cluelessness of the Fox News politburo on what Hispanic voters really want and how Fox can ease their minds about that whole immigration issue. See, it's not about immigration, it's about "sovereignty"! So us American conservatives don't have a problem with white-skinned Europeans coming over here because they don't present the threat of Poland or Italy or Russia taking over parts of the United States, but it's logical for them to be mad about brown-skinned Latinos sneaking over the border because they present the threat of taking back Arizona, Texas and Hazleton, PA for the Mexican Empire, or creating a new People's Republic of Azatlan run by Hugo Chavez and the Castro Brothers, or something to that effect. Can't You People see it's completely different and logical for Fox Nation to be concerned about sovereignty but fully Judeo-Christian in its views toward the people who mow their lawn and fold their sheets for $6 an hour?
- wildboy
February 11, 2013 at 12:38pm
Jorge Ramos of Univision says "Latinos tend to doubt deeply big government." And Eliza Grey--from Planet Zantok--believes him. Latinos are heavily welfare-dependent. The Puerto Rican migration after WW2 destroyed the Bronx. The Dominican invasion of upper Manhattan destroyed Washington Heights. New York in the 1980s: welfare-dependency, baby-mommas giving birth to baby-morons. Unlimited welfare benefits. Unlimited social pathology: street drug dealing, rape & murder. Quality of life issues: boom-box cars & street noise; 2,000 murders a year. That's big gov't, which Latinos love, in fact they couldn't survive without it. That's Latino family values, bebe! And this is historical fact. Justify it if you like, but don't deny it.
- raeburn
February 11, 2013 at 3:44pm
TNR, how did this happen? The above post is by raygun, not raeburn.
- raeburn
February 11, 2013 at 3:46pm
That's me raygun writing how did this happen? So when I press submit again it will look like raeburn is posting. Please please note, because the TNR is going through growing pains, raeburn is not responsible for these posts, including this one. I'm the smart one, signed, raygun not raeburn no matter what this site says. And I guess here comes another false TNR signature.
- raeburn
February 11, 2013 at 3:54pm
Well, the Old Country Lawyer from North Carolina didn't have a particular fondness for Nigras (though I think he was kind of agnostic on Latinos), so I guess it's fine of your racist ass to use his name for your little moniker, raygun. At least I'm glad you are no longer doing a disservice to our 40th President by associating yourself with him.
- wildboy
February 12, 2013 at 9:46am
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It's going to be amusing watching Roger Ailes transparent attempts to contort the propaganda machine he runs for scared, hateful old white people into something that might hide how implacably racist and filled with brain donors the base of his party is. As if anyone - hispanic or otherwise - believes Hannity and Co suddenly give a shit about anything but winning. But I do look forward to the laughs.
- WandreyCer
February 11, 2013 at 6:14pm
I got news for Roger Ailes. I'm an aging baby boomer from the working class. And I have gone to public schools, served in Vietnam and then went to college on the GI Bill with people from minorities. So my formative years were spent growing up what was once called the Melting Pot. I had friends who were African American, Puerto Rican and Mexican. I also had friends who were from what was called the Old Country. And Croatian was spoken around the dinner table at my home. Perhaps the Republicans should re-brand their party from the Grand Old Party to the Party of Scared White People. Do these guys get out of the house on a regular basis? Are they really all rich fat cats who live in gated communities and have white picket fences around their homes? When's the last time they've actually gone shopping for groceries? Tres Bizarre, mon frere.
- rewiredhogdog
February 12, 2013 at 7:34am
You ever been to Sun City, Rewired? If so, then you know how the Fox News watchers live. They do go to the grocery store, it's just that all the other customers there are just like them.
- wildboy
February 12, 2013 at 9:44am
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“The president likes to divide people into groups,” that is rich—a level of hypocrisy exceeding anything we saw in the Tea Bag Republican's clown car primary and their Ship of Fools presidential campaign—and that is something I didn't think possible. but I guess if anyone could do it would be Ailes
- teoc
February 18, 2013 at 11:00am