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ELECTIONATE OCTOBER 27, 2012

2004 And The Possibility Of A Shift In Ohio

With just ten days to go, it’s an open question whether Mitt Romney can make a comeback in Ohio. As Nate Silver noted today, the polls are getting accurate at this late stage, and the odds strongly favor Obama maintaining a lead in Ohio polls heading into Election Day. That might be especially true this year, since the polls have been remarkably consistent, Obama has already banked a lead among early voters, and it's hard to imagine advertisements making a late difference after months of airing beyond saturation levels. If Obama still leads by 2 or 3 points in Ohio in ten days, the risk of a Romney victory would hinge on the possibility of a systemic error in the polls. It happens, but not especially often.

Still, while the odds are against a late Romney turnaround, it's not impossible. It’s worth recalling the Ohio polls from this time in 2004, which showed Kerry tied or slightly ahead. Starting with the polls conducted over these very dates eight years ago, Bush took a slight and consistent lead in Ohio and never relented. From this point onward, Kerry only led in one poll of Ohio (Gallup, of course), where the RealClearPolitics average showed Bush holding a 2.1 point lead on Election Day. A similar lurch toward the right would bring about a tied race in the Buckeye State in 2

Whether the movement in the polls was attributable to a genuine shift in the race or something else is impossible to say. But 2004 reminds us that late movement in the numbers is still possible, even if it's generally unlikely and even in the most pivotal state. 

Still, it's unlikely that Romney will go into Election Day as a favorite in Ohio. If Ohio lurches two points toward Romney, that would only indicate a tied race and Obama would still have a 50-50 shot. 

As a result, Obama is a clear favorite. If the polls stay where they are, which is the likeliest scenario, Obama would be a heavy favorite on Election Day, with Romney's odds reduced to the risk of systemic polling failure. Harry Reid can tell you all about the risk of systemic polling failure, but it's still an unlikely scenario. There's also the chance that the race tightens, but, even then, Obama would still have a 50-50 shot. Viewed collectively, Obama's odds look pretty good--but there's still ten days to go and '04 reminds us that those ten days can occassionally make a difference. 

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But isn't there a chance that things can also break for Obama? I mention this only because of the public beatdown from Chrysler he got after publicly lying that Jeep was going to close down and ship all their jobs to China. From a newspaper: Chrysler vice president of communications Gualberto Ranieri said on the company's web-site: "Let's set the record straight: Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China." Ranieri also said the Bloomberg report was misconstrued by some publications and the company was "simply reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output to China for the world’s largest auto market. "U.S. Jeep assembly lines will continue to stay in operation," he said. "A careful and unbiased reading of the Bloomberg take would have saved unnecessary fantasies and extravagant comments." I imagine that had to have some play in local papers in Ohio and should cost him something.

- blackton

October 27, 2012 at 10:22pm

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Has anyone ever tried to figure out why and how this happened in 2004? Was there a systematic error in the polling? Did something abruptly shift sentiment? Just chance?

- roidubouloi

October 28, 2012 at 12:12am

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I second roidubouloi's question. Was it just stats moving as they do, or was there some tangible explanation?

- asg29

October 28, 2012 at 12:56am

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Actually if there is any sign of a shift this year this late, it's in Virginia in Obama's direction. As for Ohio in 04, Osama bin Laden released a tape on October 29th.

- timteeter

October 28, 2012 at 1:03am

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blackton, you mean the public challenge Romney got for talking about Jeep going to China, right? Your comment makes it sound as if Obama said that.

- ironyroad

October 28, 2012 at 2:12am

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that is right Irony, pronoun trouble.

- blackton

October 28, 2012 at 1:38pm

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You know what happened election day 2004? IT RAINED. In Ohio. And, there were lines, a lack of voting machines etc in Democratic areas. This hurricane scares me to death. First for the people in its path, secondly for the election. Voter suppression tactics, ditto. AAACCKKKKKKKKKKKKK.

- Sophia

October 28, 2012 at 6:21pm

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